I don't think it's gimmicky. Grant and Co. do most of their riding in the hills, usually with fairly heavy loads, and I can see why they gravitated toward longer, stouter bikes. But, like you, I am skeptical of the advantages of super long stays. Longer is better to a point, sure, but I wonder if that point has been passed in some cases. And I wish the model line-up had more variety. There's a lot of overlap. I think sportier bikes have their place.
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:58:51 AM UTC-8, masmojo wrote: > > Well, I want to like Long chainstays and long wheelbases; I REALLY REALLY >> do, but honestly I don't think the benefits are really there. > > > More comfortable? More stable? Was I uncomfortable or unstable before? No > not really. > There's far more downsides than up. > The comfort is provided via a flexier frame, don't think a frame has to be > super stiff and some flex can be a good thing. bu there will be power loss > on a big flexy, heavy bike. > Stability? My Clementine isn't any more stable then any other bike and I > find I've got to slow much more for tightish turns so I don't overshoot the > apex and land in a bush. > In the meantime you've got a much heavier bike (let's face it this is not > Columbus SL tubing) and unnecessary weight is never a good thing. the main > advantage of this design is nobody's going to compare the weight of your > bike with another bike of similar dimensions, because there aren't any. So > if you use a slightly cheaper/heavier tubing nobody can bust you on it. > > Basically, I am not opposed to longer stay's or long wheel bases > necessarily, I just want to understand how these dimensions are arrived at? > what is merely long and what is too long? On the Clem's and My Clementine > it almost seems like a cost saving measure that's sold as some sort of > advantage? The chain stays are pretty much straight! Not having to bend > those is probably cheaper!? And like I said tubing doesn't have to be that > great, it's understood it's going to be a heavy bike. > > I think it's an unfortunate Gimmicky fad and I am ready for it to be over. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/238fd2b6-ed44-4676-8446-93537157a31b%40googlegroups.com.