I ask because as far as I can see, there's virtually nothing that any
prospective owner can do in the way of research that would help in
identifying good vs poor carbon bicycles. I just don't see what sort of
due diligence you're expecting prospective purchasers to perform, and
thought that perhaps you might have though of something specific and
obvious that I've overlooked, having very little experience buying bikes
from bike shops and zero experience buying carbon. There's no Consumer
Reports for bicycles (and when CR tries to write up bicycles the results
are virtually useless), most of what most bike mags publish is useless
drivel, and BQ mostly does customs / handbuilts.
On 07/26/2018 08:10 PM, jack loudon wrote:
"And what would the nature of this due diligence on the part of the
buyer / owner be?"
The nature of the due diligence would be the research most of us would
do when making a major purchase, which is primarily checking the
reputation of manufacturer, but also looking for history of damaged or
recalled frames, asking questions on this list etc. I think most
bicycles have to meet EN or CEN standards when sold in Europe and
elsewhere, even unbranded Chinese frames (for what that's worth). But
you already knew all this, so I'm not sure what you were expecting in
the way of an answer from me.
Jack
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 12:15:57 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 07/26/2018 12:48 PM, jack loudon wrote:
Like Joe and Patrick, I also think CF /can/ be safe but the
buyer/owner needs to do a lot more due diligence than when buying
steel. Because the consequences of CF failure are so great,
sloppy design and construction simply can't be tolerated. I would
tend to trust company like Salsa (for instance) because their CF
frames seem to emphasize strength over extreme light weight.
Their Cutthroat has had plenty of testing on the Tour Divide and
other races, and if Salsa has had CF frame or fork failures, I
haven't heard of them. OTOH, Salsa had a steel fork recall
awhile back. IMO it's not the material but the integrity and
expertise of the designer/builder.
And what would the nature of this due diligence on the part of the
buyer / owner be?
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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA
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