Drew wrote: *It seems unnecessarily  stubborn to completely rule out 
another way of stopping a bike. I mean that’s all it is. How a bike stops 
shouldn’t be integral to anyone’s being.* 

You are so right. And you know, making a bicycle out of carbon fiber or 
aluminum or bamboo is just another way of making a bicycle. What a huge 
market for those! And electronic shifting? 11 speed? Gianormous potential! 
Many a small company has lost its focus by this "logic." It perhaps makes 
sense to be all things to all people if you want to grow and compete with 
Trek and Specialized and Giant. But otherwise, you risk losing much of what 
makes your company unique. I can't remember the exact thread right this 
minute but I know Grant very recently talked about a line in the sand. 
Sometimes, it makes sense to redraw it a little--*The New York Times* going 
to color, bringing back the original Coke recipe, Rivendell making some 
lower priced tigged models--but move it far enough, you've gone too far 
from your center, and who are you now? You'd better be ready, willing, and 
able to sell the rest of your soul and go mano a mano with the big boys and 
girls. 

Maybe, just maybe, Rivendell will one day make a disc bike. I certainly 
would not hold it against the company. But it would not come from the same 
place as the other Rivendell bicycle designs, would it? And anyway, what 
then? Will it have clearance for 2.3 vs. 2.1? Is that with or without 
fenders? Will it be of the lugged or tigged variety? Please, NO HEARTS!! 
Will it have a fancy curved Crust style disc fork or a straight fork? Will 
it be thru axle? Will it come in my favorite color? Man, I'd be all over 
this if it came in 58.75cm! Why do they always skip my size? Fixed gear, 
yo! What about a disc Roadeo but with some rear rack braze-ons and 
clearance for 34.5mm with fenders? That's the one I want! Cheviut, with 
cantis* and *disc, oh yeah. Wait, it costs how much? I can get a blah blah 
for half that! I know it probably doesn't phase Grant much, but whew, I 
think I'd sometimes get exhausted heading up a bicycle company that gives 
half a darn.

How a bike stops is not integral to anyone's being. Amen to that! 

Note: Just in case it is not self evident, all of the above is written in 
the spirit of My Opinion, and without any bad temper, though maybe a smidge 
of* sheesh!*



On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:25:39 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Yes I would. 
> I tried to avoid disc talk in the other thread because I know how these 
> conversations devolve and it seems like it definitely won’t happen. 
>
> That said, I think Rivendell is needlessly eliminating a huge market by 
> not at least being open to discs. A market that you can see others sliding 
> in to fill. 
>
> Ive never owned a disc braked bike and I stop fine. At the same time, It 
> seems unnecessarily  stubborn to completely rule out another way of 
> stopping a bike. I mean that’s all it is. How a bike stops shouldn’t be 
> integral to anyone’s being. 
>
> I love Rivendell and everything they stand for, and I think one disc model 
> would bring in a lot of business and not sacrifice any integrity. I’d like 
> to see them all as wildly rich and successful as humanly possible. So yes. 
> I’d buy it immediately. 

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