On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote:

> Jeff said: “In general, front forks for discs appear more stout than many
> boutique brand front forks that strive for a french style bend, but there's
> plenty that are on par with mid-tier commodity Surly and Surly-like forks.”
>
> Exactly, and how much of the Rivendell feel and handling is because of the
> steel forks? Some appreciable amount, I suspect. They absorb a lot of road
> chatter because they aren’t beefy. That, in turn, improves handling and
> ease of holding a line.
>

Agree - fat tires help some, but the bike I replace my Sam H with in the
interest of going with discs just doesn't have the same magic feeling that
Sam had, but I'm not sure I attribute that entirely with the fork. Handling
involves a lot of factors, many I don't fully understand but I can tell
when a bike feels good to me and when it doesn't, and accept that there's a
sliding scale, it's not black and white. The trade off is worth it for me
at this time, to ride a disc-braked bike vs. a Rivendell for a majority of
my riding. If I'd never had a Sam, I'd think my Space Horse was the best
bike I've ever had the pleasure to ride.

I'd posit that my old Sam would probably feel better than my current Space
Horse, if I could somehow install my Space Horse fork on Sam - there's
other things that made it great outside of the fork. Hence why I'm saying
I'd not hesitate to buy a Sam-like Riv or Hunq-like Riv with disc brakes.

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