On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 16:05 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote:
> >> 20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave
> >> my
> >> tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my
> >> gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs
> >
> > I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in.  I have to  
> > carry
> > sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not  
> > light;
> > sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I  
> > weighed a
> > pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt.  That sort of thing adds
> > up.  But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that
> > very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps.
> 
> I wear SPD style shoes for all clipless riding and don't take extra  
> shoes along.  But it's hard to find cycling shoes that don't look  
> like a Chagal riff on bowling shoes.  What's up with that, anyway?

It's not only the look, although I think the Sidi Dominators I use don't
look /quite/ that bad.  It's also that they're pretty expensive and I
really don't want to wear the soles needlessly.  Also, while they're
fine for the intended purpose, they're not really all that comfortable
or secure for serious walking.

I tried carrying "water shoes" on a tour last year.  Not too heavy,
folded up pretty small, but when my touring companions set off on a hike
up a rocky steep hillside, I was frankly very afraid of falling, as they
weren't at all secure.  Last summer, literally on the eve of the tour,
which was going to include visits to two of the Shenandoah Valley's
famous caverns, I got a pair of Keen sandals.  Not the SPD riding
sandals, but just plain regular ones.  Very secure, very comfortable,
and although not light, they did pack small.  I liked them so well I
wore them exclusively from then until late fall.





> 
> A lot of tourists don't seem to wear bike clothing or just wear  
> cycling shorts under their street clothes.  Makes a certain amount of  
> sense, not having to essentially carry two wardrobes.  I happen to  
> prefer riding in cycling clothes, though.  I got some lightweight  
> clothing at REI which looks a little dorky but works pretty well; it  
> also packs up much smaller.
> 

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