On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 11:39 -0800, usuk2007 wrote:
20lbs for motel touring is excellent. If I'm doing that I just leave
my
tent, sleeping, bag, sleeping pad and cooking stuff behind and my
gear, bags and rack weigh 16lbs

I find it's the off-the-bike clothing that does me in. I have to carry sandals or sneakers (sandals take up less space, but they're not light; sneakers in my size just about fill one of my panniers) and I weighed a
pair of my pants: 1 1/2 lb without the belt.  That sort of thing adds
up.  But I'm not wearing cycling clothing off the bike - I find that
very uncomfortable - and I'm not going back to clips and straps.

I wear SPD style shoes for all clipless riding and don't take extra shoes along. But it's hard to find cycling shoes that don't look like a Chagal riff on bowling shoes. What's up with that, anyway?

A lot of tourists don't seem to wear bike clothing or just wear cycling shorts under their street clothes. Makes a certain amount of sense, not having to essentially carry two wardrobes. I happen to prefer riding in cycling clothes, though. I got some lightweight clothing at REI which looks a little dorky but works pretty well; it also packs up much smaller.

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