On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

On Feb 4, 11:54 am, usuk2007 <clive.stand...@umassmed.edu> wrote:
FYI here is a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight
principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three
season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It can be installed on any bike,
road, touring, mountain as it requires no eyelets and even if you
don’t have saddlebag loops you can buy simple clamp on ones or use a
quick release Bagman. If I loose a few pounds I’m thinking of  trying
this setup on my DeRosa Neo Primato. That would be touring on an
Italian steel bike with Japanese components and English bicycle bags.
Call me crazy, but I just love the idea of all those weird
juxtapositions.

http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/

This is great. Amazing how much "touring" one can do without a full
touring rig.

In much of the world one can tour for weeks and months with nothing more than will fit in a Carradice Nelson or Camper, since there are an abundance of villages and hotels, B&Bs, chambres-d'hôtes, pensiones and youth hostels. Unless you really *want* to camp, which I don't care for myself. In the US credit card touring is expensive because hotels and motels are severely overpriced in most cases; in most other countries, much cheaper but good accommodations are easily found. I've seen report of people riding most of the way around the world without having to camp (there are some places where human habitation is too sparse to be reliable and camping ends up being necessary).

But even if you want to camp, you can readily get the weight below 25 lbs. Reading "Crazy Guy On a Bike" and "Trento Bike" reports I am amazed at how many people haul 100 lbs worth of crap with them on bike tours. It's like pedaling a Winnebago. I remember reading one report of a guy taking four hours to climb up the Col d'Izoard with all his gear (it's about an hour's climb on the north side for a slow climber like me; the south side is steeper but shorter).

This guy pushes the limit. Click on the little bike icon to see his progressively more minimalist touring setups (and he starts out pretty minimalist):

http://www2.arnes.si/~ikovse/index.htm

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