Christopher: any saddle height rule is only a "rule of thumb." It's a
starting point, like KOPS. Measure per Grant or whomever; ride; adjust.

Patrick Moore, who has recently very slightly reduced his saddle setback
over the center of the bb spindle.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height
> being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for
> the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks.
> Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather
> is warm, I have been riding in Bedrock Sandals. Because the soles are so
> thin, I had to lower my saddle a bit. I've also been dealing with some knee
> pain and came across these articles: https://www.
> stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be/ and
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/addendum-to-
> seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be-2/. I think a lot of what he says is going
> on for me: knee and back pain, tilted hips, pedaling toes-down, etc. I went
> for a ride this morning and stopped to lower my saddle a few times. No new
> knee pain (same as before), and now I feel like I can pedal with a more
> level foot. My legs are still pretty far extended at the bottom of the
> stroke, and I can't reach them at the bottom with my heels (another
> possibly flawed guide for setting saddle height). When I got home I
> measured the saddle height at 73cm. I know the Bedrock sandals are thin,
> but I doubt they're 2cm thinner than my clipless pedals and shoe combo.
> Maybe the additional sole flex makes them effectively even thinner?
>
> Chris
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