Hi, 
   I haven't seen anyone else mention this, but when I set my saddle back, 
like way back on the Nitto lugged seat post, I have to measure my saddle 
height from BB to where my sit bones go, not parallel to the seat post 
tube, thus lowering the saddle more in relation to the ground. 

    Also, I have to adjust my saddle further if I make changes in shoe & 
pedal thicknesses.

The (PBH x 0.883 = saddle height) & (PBH - 10-11cm = saddle height) 
equations have always worked for me as a good place to start. My wife has a 
73cm PBH and starting with these formulas as a place to work from has 
worked out for her too.

John

 
On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 4:20:50 PM UTC-7, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height 
> being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for 
> the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks. 
> Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather 
> is warm, I have been riding in Bedrock Sandals. Because the soles are so 
> thin, I had to lower my saddle a bit. I've also been dealing with some knee 
> pain and came across these articles: 
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be/
>  and 
>
> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/addendum-to-seat-height-how-hard-can-it-be-2/.
>  
> I think a lot of what he says is going on for me: knee and back pain, 
> tilted hips, pedaling toes-down, etc. I went for a ride this morning and 
> stopped to lower my saddle a few times. No new knee pain (same as before), 
> and now I feel like I can pedal with a more level foot. My legs are still 
> pretty far extended at the bottom of the stroke, and I can't reach them at 
> the bottom with my heels (another possibly flawed guide for setting saddle 
> height). When I got home I measured the saddle height at 73cm. I know the 
> Bedrock sandals are thin, but I doubt they're 2cm thinner than my clipless 
> pedals and shoe combo. Maybe the additional sole flex makes them 
> effectively even thinner? 
>
> Chris
>

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