"You are only approached by other "Connoisseurs", steel bike/Rivendell
owners." - Very true.

I agree with what's been said.  Most people will think its an old
bike.  I seldom get comments on my Rivs.  Which usually makes me
happy. I'd rather ride than explain why friction shifting is fun to
some crabon-rider.  This happened to me yesterday - nothing but
questions for about 4 miles.  He started with "you look like you rode
out of an old photograph."  That being said, it *is* fun doing group
rides with like-minded riders!

Its more like driving a Volvo 240 than a Porche.  Rivendells blend
into to the "old steel bike" background -- and only real fans or
people who "get it" will share a good conversation.

Like any bike - lock it up smart.  The more bags or cherished things
on a bike, the less likely I am to leave it locked up out of sight.

These bikes are meant to ride and be ridden, not to be holed up like
Gollum's "prescious."  Especially a Sam.  Ride it and don't worry.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jan 14, 3:11 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mick,
>
> My own experience has been that most people think you are riding an old
> vintage bicycle. You are only approached by other "Connoisseurs", steel
> bike/Rivendell owners. The subdued color of the Hillborne makes it even less
> conspicuous in my opinion.
>
> Now, when I commute on my Bombadil with its double top tube, I do get some
> glances reflecting they are thinking I'm riding a weird crazy contraption...
> :-D
>
> In fact, yesterday on my ride home from work (12.5 miles), I saw another
> rider on what I identified as a steel bike (twilight kind of dark, stopped
> at a red light) just because I saw the hanging shifter cables from the
> bar-end shifters. As I squinted to read the down tube decal, I realized I
> was looking at an Atlantis. The bike couldn't have looked any more low key
> and I could only realize what it was because I knew what an Altantis is. I
> made a comment "Nice Rivendell!" and the guy turned to check out my bike and
> asked confused what was I riding. I explained it was a Rivendell Bombadil
> and all he could respond was something about the double top tubes. He had no
> idea what a Bombadil was.
>
> I don't think you have to worry a lot in general, and I think you're going
> to love it so much you won't regret it. For me, as I've been riding more and
> more my new Rivendell bikes, my dressing has changed accordingly. No
> clipless pedals and regular shoes (Merrell) also tells general riders you
> are not up to par, I've gotten comments from co-workers as soon as they also
> realize I'm riding platform pedals. The wool stuff and non-commercial
> cycling apparel also help give you that low key look.
>
> I'm now using the wool gloves Rivendell sells instead of my Sugoi hard core
> cycling gloves, and they also scream "non-hard-core-cyclist" to those being
> influenced by the marketing hype (as I was until late last year).
>
> Don't worry, ín my experience it's certainly nothing like driving a Porsche
> (which I've never done). In fact, I used to get a lot more of that showing
> off feeling when I rode my all-carbon Specialized Roubaix SL2... which I'm
> now selling.
>
> I could post some comments I've gotten from friends who've seen my Flickr
> pages, but I don't want Jim to expell me for posting bad language here...
> :-D I then have to start the lengthy process of educating them, and it's not
> always worth it. The worse blind man is the one who refuses to see...
> (transltated from Spanish so bear with me!)
>
> René
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Mick <makoep...@mac.com> wrote:
> > I'm very interested in buying a Sam Hillborne.  I think it's a
> > fantastically constructed bike and aesthetically a work of art. I like
> > the idea of having a quality piece of machinery, that fits well, and
> > that could ridden for many years to come. While I can afford to drop
> > $2,000 (or so) on a bike, I've never owned one that costly before.  I
> > was wondering if this owner's group could let me know if they've ever
> > felt uncomfortable riding an "expensive" bike or one as beautiful as
> > the Sam Hillborne.  Is it the same as sporting around in a Porsche or
> > let's say a vintage Alfa Romeo?  (I'm not sure I could ever do either
> > of these things).
>
> > Generally speaking I like to keep a low profile.  I was wondering if
> > that will be possible riding a Sam Hillborne.  Do those riding
> > Rivendell's get approached often by people looking to appreciate their
> > bike?  And is this a positive experience?  Do you ever feel self-
> > conscious about riding such a flash bike?
>
> > What about locking the bike and leaving it?  Do you feel comfortable
> > doing so?  Or is it so obviously expensive and sought after that you
> > wouldn't think of leaving it out of eye sight?
>
> > Thanks for providing any insight you may have.  I'd hate to buy a bike
> > that I loved, but didn't feel comfortable being seen in public with.
> > I'm hoping that you Rivendell riders might be able to put my mind to
> > rest.
>
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