On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 18:40 -0500, Larry Powers wrote:
> I took a nice tour on my Atlantis this past summer, I commute daily on
> my QB, my wife and I toured France on our Rambouillet and Bleriot (I
> also completed PBP on my Rambo) and my wife likes to tool around our
> neighborhood on her Glorius.  We like Riv bikes and have bought our
> share.  I know things change and can understand moving production to
> Taiwan because of the exchange rate.  I guess the thing that pushed my
> buttons was to read that the Ruffy Tuffy/Rolly Polly tires will be
> discontinued.  When I bought my Rambouillet it was touted as unique
> because it could use a large 28mm tire with fenders.  Ruffy Tuffy
> tires have been my tire of choice for this bike and now Riv has
> abandoned both the bike and the tire.  I believe that the Homer Hilson
> is the bike that Grant really intended to build when the developed the
> Rambouillet.  But the parts available at the time placed limits on the
> design.  The availability of longer and wider brakes finally allowed
> the Hilson to be built.  I like the Hilson but having a Rambo and an
> Atlantis it is hard to justify the purchase of a bike in the middle.


Yes, but there are several other very nice 28mm tires out there.  It's
not like the RP/RT was the only nice tire in that width.  What's more,
nobody is going to read this as "Riv abandons 28mm".

I think Riv's abandonment of 650B in all but the smallest size frames is
far more serious, in that Riv is seen as the leading champion of that
size, and this, then, is the champion turning its back on the size
except in those cases where the wider 700C simply won't fit.

> 
> Change is inevitable and I hope that Riv continues to sell Lugged
> steel bike for a long time.

We've seen no evidence of any turning away from either steel as a frame
material, or lugged construction as the way of building those frames.
Nor do I expect we ever shall.


>   I am very glad that I have my bikes because the new Riv's with
> limited sizes and sloping top tubes are not as close to my vision of
> what a bike should be.  Hopefully they will maintain a few frames like
> the Hilson for those of us who appreciate a more classic shaped frame.
> If the economy improves

Surely you mean "when," not "if"...


>  maybe I will buy a Hilson or a Roadeo because I would really like to
> ride Brevets on a 32mm tire.   I also hope that they do not completely
> forget those of us who supported them in the early years.

How so?



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