Ogre Vs. Hunq.? I would say go with the Surly! Why? Well, they are inexpensive &as you've figured out the Surly & the Hunq. sort of overlap a little. So get the Surly, then a little later get an Atlantis or Cheviot to do the things the Surly is not so good at. Actually, let me muddy the water a little more and suggest you look at the SOMA Wolverine and the Velo Orange Piolet! Just to confuse you a little more! ;-)
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