Being that you are in the Riv group, dissenting opinions are going to be 
hard to find here.

But, I have an Ogre and have ridden a ton of Surlys and owned 1 Riv.

- The Ogre will be a little bit more stout but not by as much as people 
here are saying.
- The Ogre will ride better with weight on it. I actually don't like the 
dead feeling much either but once there is weight on it, it feels great.
- The Ogre fits much larger tires.
- The Ogre is FAR more capable off road than the Hunq will ever be. 
Specially if you are on the tall side and might use longer cranks.
- You won't cry a little bit every time you get mud or a ding in your paint 
with the Ogre.


If you want" just one bike" get the Riv. If you are looking for something 
to take off road for extended periods of time get the Ogre. If they were 
the same price I'd still get the Ogre specifically for off road touring and 
MTB trails.

- Ryan


 

On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 8:46:23 AM UTC-7, R Olson wrote:
>
> I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre.  I want this bike 
> to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it - 
> ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc.  Has anyone 
> owned or ridden either of these?  My impressions are as follows:  Ogre: 
> more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't 
> ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq:  great looks, ride, 
> very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride.  I'd appreciate your 
> thoughts. Thanks!   
>

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