on 12/23/09 9:28 AM, tarik saleh at tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: > Jim, > As it is snowing hard and I am one of 3 people in my building right now, > > I don't remember 853 ever havbing a certification on it. It is > airhardening, but it has been used pretty successfully for lugged > frames, You don;t get the hardening benefit, but it still is prettuy > high quality steel even without the hardening. I can't remember my > source on that though. I worked with a bunch of 853 when I > apprenticed at Kelly 13 years ago or so and I don't think there was a > test at all to get it, just buy it and watch it tear through your > holesaws and realize you need to buy better ones for this stuff, hard > thinwall tubes are a bit tricky compared to older steels. (similar > behavior to the ox Platinum TT sells). I don't remember the first > generation of 853 (probably at the same time that waterford was > building riv frames) being suitable dimensions for existing lugs > either...
Thanks Tarik. My recollection of 853 goes back to when we were buying Some Guy's Bicycles Which Were Being Marketed By A Very Large Bicycle Company, and I'm sure it there was some rep's comment that I misconstrued. The party line was that Reynolds was being very stingy with the 853, therefore it was super special. The SGBWWBMBAVLBC literature I saved from that year refers to it as "a descendent of 753" and I'm sure the inference of certification came from that. be safe! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
