I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur 
rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the 
builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P&S rack's 
ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set 
up my Clem differently, the rack will easily fit a couple other bikes I 
have. If I'd gone custom, the rack most likely wouldn't fit another bike.
The goal was to have a porteur rack platform with front panniers. Price 
wise, Nitto 32f & Hub Area Rack would be more expensive and I wouldn't have 
the large platform.
David
Chicago



On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:41:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts 
> the P&S rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack 
> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier 
> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple 
> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info 
> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcetmacargo.com%2Fpages%2Fcetma-racks-info&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGterEl6jWsHzbdiU1V0E8wJeeiZQ>),
>  
> and Wald has a giant rack-sket now (
> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
>  
> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For 
>> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a P&S rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a 
>>> large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small Berthoud 
>>> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with 
>>> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in all 
>>> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream. 
>>>
>>> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: 
>>> the P&S rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light mounts, 
>>> and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible 
>>> mounting system. I love it. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
>>> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
>>> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
>>> go back on another back. 
>>> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, 
>>> bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order 
>>> easily.
>>> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd need 
>>> to add a basket on top.
>>> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious about 
>>> folks using that rack with front panniers.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>

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