FWIW I've been very happy with the SKF bottom bracket Compass sells. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Mark Reimer <marknrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Anton - the Atlantis already has a hole right at the bottom of the > shell. I was pleasantly surprised to find very little surface rust anywhere > inside the frame. I obviously couldn't see inside the seat and chain stays, > but the chain stays are sloped downwards so any rust would probably be > toward the BB shell, which looked clean so far as I could see. I treated > external surface rust with some clear nail polish, which is a short-term > fix. I've rubbed the paint off from muddy tires and dropped chains, so it's > fairly minor, but this should help slow it down till I one-day repaint it. > > > Regarding the Phil BB - I was using their new weather shields. I started > to wonder if they actually trap water INSIDE, rather than keep it out. I > mean of course they keep a lot of water out. But if the bb is ever > submerged momentarily, I could see them filling up and retaining water > against the seals. This is just a suspicion, I have no way of knowing it. > Either way, the only point of entry for water to access the bearings on a > Phil BB would be from the outside (the inside is protected by the bearing > retaining shell and mounting rings), so clearly they aren't preventing > moisture from getting at them very well. I hope I can find some good > bearings locally and fabricate some kind of bearing press to install them. > Bummer that I JUST traded my other Phil BB with new bearings in it for a WI > BB! > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Anton Tutter <atut...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Good luck with the FluidFilm, I've heard the stuff is great. I had been >> using FrameSaver and liked it a lot, but switched to Boeshield once when >> there seemed to be a worldwide shortage of FrameSaver. Boeshield doesn't >> seem to dry as waxy as FrameSaver, and whatever residue it leaves behind is >> very thin, but I suppose it's better than nothing. >> >> If you haven't already put a new BB in, while the BB shell is empty you >> might want to drill a small (1/8") hole through the bottom of the BB shell >> if the Atlantis's shell isn't already drilled. It is the best way to ensure >> that any trapped moisture or even standing water drains and vents. You can >> dab a little FluidFilm on the bare metal exposed from drilling. I've done >> this on a few bikes and have been glad I did. >> >> Anton >> >> >> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:35:59 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: >> >>> Took the plunge last night and stripped the Atlantis down to the frame >>> and gave it a good dose of FluidFilm. The stuff sprays on nice and easy. I >>> used painters tape to seal off the bottom end of each tube, sprayed from >>> the top liberally, the taped off the top and end spun the frame around to >>> coat everything inside. Mess was minimal and I was able to apply it inside >>> my apartment. This morning it looks like the stuff has started to cure a >>> bit, into a yellowish thin film. The can says it will never harden, but >>> rather retain a soft waxy feel. Tonight I'll re-assemble the bike. Sad news >>> was I discovered my Phil BB, less than a year old, has notchy bearings >>> already. Not impressed. >>> >>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:09:41 PM UTC-6, Kieran J wrote: >>>> >>>> I've bought Boeshield at Lee Valley in the recent past. Some LBSs carry >>>> it too. >>>> >>>> KJ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 1:59:20 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mark...I would definitely spray something in your frame...we've >>>>> used Boeshield and LPS3 and I've had my frames sprayed a couple of times >>>>> over the years. I suspect your Atlantis was initially treated with >>>>> Boeshield or LPS3 or some such, but the treatment does need to be >>>>> periodically repeated. Lee Valley used to sell a really good lubricant, >>>>> with , I think, lanolin as an ingredient but I don't see it there >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:54:33 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah, I'm familiar with that product. And on that note, can't believe I >>>>>> forgot about this, I JUST rust treated a 40 year old motorcycle tank. It >>>>>> was naaaasty rusty inside. Guess what ate the rust clean off, is dirt >>>>>> cheap, can be dumped onto the street after, and available everywhere? >>>>>> >>>>>> White vinegar! >>>>>> >>>>>> I filled the tank (which was completely lined with rust) with >>>>>> vinegar, and added a few small sheet metal screws to knock the rust loose >>>>>> when I'd shake it. I let it sit for about a week, shaking it a few times >>>>>> a >>>>>> day. A week might have been way more than needed. but the point is, it >>>>>> came >>>>>> out 100% clean. I then treated it with an epoxy tank liner product to >>>>>> prevent rust from returning, which I wouldn't ever do on a bike frame, >>>>>> but >>>>>> the vinegar would certainly be a good rust treatment for inside a rusty >>>>>> bicycle frame. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:49 AM, drew <drewbe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> amsoil hdmp is, from what i can tell, the exact same thing as jpw >>>>>>> frame saver. it's awesome. boeshield feels watery and runny, but >>>>>>> amsoil/framesaver sticks and runs the right amount to make you confident >>>>>>> that its on, and staying on, all surfaces. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if you are worried about rust that you already have, i had great >>>>>>> luck refurbishing a rust bucket frame with THIS >>>>>>> <http://www.zoro.com/metal-rescue-rust-remover-non-toxic-ph-neutral-metalrescue1gal/i/G7491915/?gclid=CP7WjMXUmsoCFZKCfgodhOMDqQ&gclsrc=aw.ds> >>>>>>> product. >>>>>>> i stripped the frame, plugged all holes, filled the frame with the >>>>>>> liquid for about a day, dumped it out and with it came the rust. then >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> applied amsoil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5R_GOC2bTSM/unsubscribe >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5R_GOC2bTSM/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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