Now that the Clems have been out in the wild for a while now, how "lively" do people think the frame is? I know Riv built this frame to be on the tough side, but my briefly owned Cheviot felt pretty lively to me, so I'm wondering if the Clem is in that ballpark (though I think the Cheviut benefits from not having a top tube.... 0/0/0 wall thickness!)
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