Just for reference.  I'm thin - 5'8" 145lbs - and the small fit me
just right.  I decided on the small because riv listed them as "full
cut" in the quad area.  I've been riding more regularly and the legs
seem more snug.  I will consider a medium when I order the next pair.

The pants feel great with only one layer (undies or woolies)
underneath.  With bike shorts they still fit well.  With woolies and
bike shorts underneath they just start to feel snug.  They have been
my first choice for about a year - they're so thin and "not there".
Even if it's raining I'll wear them because they cling without being
annoying and dry out quick.  With woolies underneath you don't even
notice the rain.

The fabric has held up better than expected.  The saddle has given
back some of it's dye and natural oils.  The discoloration is
persisting between washes but I can't blame the pants.  The amount of
wear is much lower than the abuse given.

The details are useful.  Deep pockets, velcro to cinch the leg as
knickers.  Overall, highly recommended.

-Jude

P.S. - I was hoping the riv MUSA rain pants would give me a winter
riding solution.  I just can't get over the orange.  I don't mind
garish colors but I already wear a bright yellow raincoat for all
weather.  The clash between orange and yellow is just too much.  When
you ride your bike full time you have to wear your pants - to work,
with friends, to dinner, art openings - they just don't work if
they're orange.  I'm already known as "the guy who wears strange bike
clothes" - but ORANGE - my social life just can't take it.

On Nov 11, 9:40 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com" <lylebog...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I guess I fall into the thin category--6'1", 185 pounds--I really like
> my MUSA pants and found that I had to buy a size larger than I'm
> accustomed to so that the thighs weren't too tight.
>
> lyle
>
> On Nov 11, 10:19 am, jim_OLP <j...@landoloons.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm considering them but I read one review saying they were billowy in
> > front, and I hate pants like that. I'm a thin guy and am so tired of
> > wearing the baggy stuff in stores today.   I could maybe overlook the
> > weird blue crotch that looks like you just sat on something wet, but
> > if they're balloon-cut upstairs, that's a deal-breaker.  Any thin guys
> > wearing these?
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