Tom: FWIW, with a SON 20R on a 25" actual diameter wheel, my Edeluxe I puts
out usable light, if not full power, starting at about 5 or 6 mph. Full
comes on below 10, IIRC.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have an SP PV-8 hub on one Hillborne and a current-generation SON28 on
> another Hillborne. I like them both just fine. I may end up getting another
> dynamo'd wheel in the future and, barring near-future failure of the one I
> have, will probably get another SP PV-8 just because it's >$150 cheaper.
>
> If I were a generally faster rider I might've gotten an SP SV-8 (which I
> think is the one intended to work with smaller wheels with higher typical
> rotation rates. But I don't like the notion of worrying about going "fast
> enough to see" when I have a choice.
>
> I use them both with an Edelux II and find I have plenty of light when I
> need it, even below 10mph. Off-the-cuff I can't tell whether one hub yields
> more light than the other at the same speed. Nor can I tell that one is
> more easy-rolling than the other. Sometimes I do feel that the SON28 is
> rolls *smoother* but not necessarily *easier*. On both I can feel the
> resistance when the light is on versus when the light is off. And for both
> I *think* I can tell that they do not roll as easily as a non-dynamo hub
> even when the light is off. But assuming that's true it's not nearly enough
> to make me want to go back to a non-dynamo hub. I would consider going
> back only if either becomes unreliable as a light source in the next few
> thousand miles.
>
> I got the SON28 simply because I suspected (and still suspect) that it
> will last longer. With only hundreds of miles on each (all problem free) I
> can't speak with experience on life expectancy. I'd've been very
> disappointed if either had had issues before now. I prefer the SON28's
> connection style but the SP's works fine also.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 12:53:44 AM UTC-5, Don Funke wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience with these hubs? They have some good reviews and
>> are considerably less expensive than some of the german brands. I assume
>> they can be manufactured cheaper without the stringent german regulatory
>> process.
>>
>> http://www.intelligentdesigncycles.com/shop/shutter-precision-hub-dyanmos.html
>>
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