Yes, they did collaborate. One of Jan's rando bikes was a Rivendell. http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/BQRandonneurBike.pdf
-- Rene -----Original Message----- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CycloFiend Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? on 10/27/09 10:49 AM, Jeff at newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: > Okay, so it was a Kuzma project? I think I got the last of these from > Todd in May 2007 as he was shutting down Heron. It looks to me like > most production Rivendells (except the Ram) tend to have more rake > (like 5 or 5.2) than I'm used to, so I may well get improved handling > with a bag, though perhaps not at the level of Herses and Singers of > old. Not to open up an endlessly rehashed can o' worms, but the rake (offset) of the fork itself is only one of the variables in determining fork trail. A good calculator, such as JimG's will show how different values of HA, tire size, etc., interact. http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php And, fork trail itself is only one of the variables which determines the ride of the bicycle. Opinions and experiences with high trail and low trail has certainly generated a ton of posts on the topic (visit the ibob archives for a couple days' worth of reading - let's not replicate it here.) I think it's tempting to focus just on that aspect, as far as bike handling is concerned, but it is just a part of the bigger picture. Changing one thing - rake, trail, HA, bb height, wheelbase - changes everything, and there are always tradeoffs. Of course, the big variable of rider technique and position, plus the type of terrrain and conditions in which one rides, plays a huge part. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "Nigel did some work for some of the other riders at Allied, onces who still rode metal. He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
