I wouldn't buy a custom without the builders name on it.If I put out that kind of money I want it right. Word of mouth can either be the best or worst advertising anybody or any business can have. Would you fabricate a frame and hang your name on it if somebody would bad mouth it? This is the age of the internet. These people are not getting rich. They are providing us (the consumers) with options and some of the finest built bicycles you can buy, and yes I'd say in the world. There are lots of choices and lots of builders and I'm going to say yeah, put your name on it because I talk alot and so does everybody else, so make it good. I bet they will because if they don't somebody will point it out.
On Oct 26, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > When Joe Bell painted my '72 Cinelli, we opted to leave his > > traditional JB logo off, since it wasn't correct for the period. > > That makes a lot of sense, as the intent was to return something to > what it was, not recreate it. > > Per my post above, the team of artisans who restored the Sistine > Chapel, would never think to have signed it themselves. > > On Oct 26, 2:44 pm, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote: > > > > > When Joe Bell painted my '72 Cinelli, we opted to leave his > > traditional JB logo off, since it wasn't correct for the period. > > > --Eric Norris > > Sent via iPhone > > > On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Not even a stamp? No names or logos seems like a pretty strict > > >> requirement for an artisan to adhere to. I only say this because I > > >> wouldn't call a builder's identity 'advertising' if all it amounted > > >> to > > >> was a stamp on the bottom bracket or something, and I certainly would > > >> *not* look at a custom frame as merely equivalent to/a product of > > >> someone's skill and time. If something as personal as a custom > > >> bicycle frame was built by human hands, whether it be an individual > > >> or > > >> multiple people, I think it should have some marking to identify > > >> those > > >> hands. > > > > I go out of my way to buy clothing that does not have any logos. I > > > don't always succeed but I try. I like my atlantis. I think it is a > > > great bike. I think rivendell is a great company. If I'm buying > > > production items and I'm happy with the company then I'm willing to > > > compromise on my requirements a bit. > > > > However, if I'm paying for something to be custom then I expect built > > > into the cost of custom building it is the reality that it will have > > > no markings save the ones I want. > > > > I spent hours removing all the logos from almost all the parts on a > > > number of bikes. I've unstitched embroidered logos on pants and > > > jackets. Removed patch logos. (seam rippers are wonderful tools) > > > > If someone wants to know what products I endorse then they can ask me. > > > I do not wish to be compelled to do otherwise. > > > > And like I said - I'm not unwilling to compromise, to a point.( That > > > little laser-etched logo from Velo-orange annoys the crap out of me, > > > though) but for fully custom-made objects I expect no brands or logos. > > > No stamps, nothing unless it is something I request. > > > > I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all, especially b/c I don't > > > dogmatically follow this rule. > > > -sv- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
