The blue solution that came with the Phil cups?
That's threadlock, and that's been my favorite for Phil cups.
Although I've found that anti-seize, copper not nickel, can also work
well...as long as the cups are properly tightened.
But wow, a 113 spindle might be why you needed both 5mm of offset and
5mm of cup on the drivetrain side just to get it to fit.
Consider the correct length bottom bracket. For example, the Sugino AT
when used as a triple requires a 127mm spindle, one of the longer
spindles out there. And the double might get by with a 119mm Phil
spindle with 3-4mm offset, but 113mm...dunno...
Sorry to offer suggestions that require time and money.
On 4/9/15 11:54 AM, jandrews_nyc wrote:
Thank you
I think I purchased a 113mm spindle with 5mm of Right Hand offset.
But I can't totally remember.
the part number is JISBRP13R
Yes, I used the anti-sieze compound that came with the Phil alloy cups .
On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 11:41:13 AM UTC-4, Dave Hallerman wrote:
Well, that is pushing the limits for a Phil Wood bottom bracket.
One question about safety: What kind of lube or anti-seize or
threadlock did you use on the Phil Wood mounting rings?
Also, when I've installed Sugino AT crank arms as compact doubles,
I've found they need 123mm long spindles, with Phil Wood, with
some offset on the drivetrain side.
So, what length spindle are you using?
Dave, who thinks the Sugino AT is a perfect compact double crank
On 4/9/15 11:22 AM, jandrews_nyc wrote:
Hi
I purchased a Protovelo web special a couple of years ago and
built it up as a fast light bike.
Here it is:
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vZWoW06DQfE/VSaXoOBBp4I/AAAAAAAAAdA/k8Kaj7wDx40/s1600/IMG_5589.JPG>
I had an almost new Sram Apex mini-group and and old set of
really nice A.T. crank arms.
I purchased some TA rings off the group for them.
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GpeprbBnns0/VSaXtWZz6iI/AAAAAAAAAdI/T7jYO164sO4/s1600/IMG_5662.JPG>
So, these A.T. cranks originally required a long off-set spindle.
I purchased a Phil BB to go with it that was offset and
adjustable but apparently I didn't really measure correctly or
accurately enough. In order to get a good chainline, the BB cups
aren't seated perfectly in the shell.
I think I have just over 5mm of cup thread showing on the drive side.
According to the Phil instructions, "/If more than 5mm of thread
is visible, this cartridge may be inappropriate for the frame and
crank arm"/, I may need to find another solution.
But...
I've riden the bike pretty hard and it feels OK.
From looking at this photos, can anyone advise if this needs to
be replaced? I don't want take an unnecessary risk.
Non Drive side:
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XBQ_TCJzHFo/VSaY0_wRGSI/AAAAAAAAAdU/eEnCWGJ-l9I/s1600/IMG_5661.JPG>
And the scary Drive side:
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bEuVdOkmTOI/VSaY6L8kslI/AAAAAAAAAdc/ydz6y-rht8c/s1600/IMG_5660-2.JPG>
thanks in advance
JS
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