FYI, I just received email confirmation from SIGG w/ a "gift certificate
code" to purchase bottles at their on-line store with free shipping.

DE

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Z <xodus48...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I appreciate Grant's willingness to share responsibility for this fiasco.
> I do not intend to penalize RBW for this issue.  I feel bad for the majority
> of the people at SIGG, who took pride in producing a quality product.  As
> for SIGG, I can't fathom what their corporate leadership were thinking.  New
> findings of problems w/ existing manufacturing processes are found all the
> time.  That's part of what moves industry forward.  Corporations assess the
> info and adjust their methods accordingly.  Had SIGG acknowledged
> participating in a now-questionable production method that they had
> previously believed to be good, and informed the public of their intention
> to change, the fallout would have been minimal conpared to what they must
> endure now.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net>
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2009 6:30:14 PM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Sick Siggs
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:23 PM, R Gonet wrote:
>
> > Apparently Sigg was selling aluminum water bottles with an interior
> > coating containing bisphenol, which is supposed to be a bad thing.
> > Grant has a post on the RBW site about this, under the Rivendell News
> > section.  Sigg is replacing these bottles and Grant suggests that you
> > send them back to Sigg, but because RBW sold them, Grant is also
> > willing to assist in the exchange (read the article for details).
> > Grant is apologetic for having sold them - his term is "guilty by
> > association" - but RBW was misled by Sigg, too.  I would not think of
> > returning a bottle to RBW under these circumstances and I give great
> > credit to Grant's taking some responsibility, even though I think he
> > does not need to.  But that's just another example of why we support
> > RBW.  And I would never buy another Sigg product, to punish them for
> > their deception
>
>
> That said, apparently testing showed no leaching of noxious stuff
> into liquids in Sigg bottles.  At least per the information my wife
> has from REI, who sell a lot of these things and is generally a
> pretty straight-up company.  Now, yes, Sigg was not as forthcoming as
> they should have been:
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/are-sigg-aluminum-bottles-bpa-
> free.php
>
> http://mysigg.com/bulletin/faq.html
>
> I own no Siggs, my wife (a backpacker) owns a bunch of the things but
> I never have reason to use them.
>
> As for me, the BPA/BPB/etc. issue is less significant than- for
> example- the dozen and a half pharmaceuticals that can be found in
> our local tap water, along with 3M chemicals from landfills buried
> (legally) 50 years ago, mercury contamination in almost all of our
> lakes the the fish therein, etc.  A mile from my house there are
> signs in multiple language to warn people not to eat the fish taken
> from the stretch of the Mississippi River that flows through here-
> and the river is the cleanest it's been in 40+ years!
>
> Or, for that matter, check the air quality data for any US
> metropolitan area.  If you breathe, you're likely breathing in all
> sorts of poisons.  Ozone, PM2.5 pollutants, etc.
>
> http://www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.main
>
> Part of why I ride a bike is to minimize my contributions to this
> sort of stuff.  I'm eyeballing the Mark's Flat Rack add-on for my
> Nitto Mini front rack as a way to make getting groceries by bike easier.
>
> Also, nothing is perfectly safe.  Unavoidable fact of life.  Somehow
> people seem to come to the idea that life is supposed to be risk-
> free, but that is impossible.  Much of the time the risks are simply
> unknown.
>
>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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