Under $1700 is a good price for a custom frame.  I toured extensively on a 
frame with 8/5/8 tubing and while it was a noodle in some (lots of) 
circumstances and the 700 wheels didn't do so well on rough stuff, it still 
planed, somehow even with 50lb of gear.  It was loaded too heavily for the 
design, but not crazily so.  I'd love a 26" bike with clearance for 2.2" 
tires w/fenders, but with a sport-tourer feel . Handsome's XOXO is close in 
concept.  

Does a touring bike really have to be a tank?  My daily ride is potentially 
a great expedition tourer, an 80's Rocky Mountain that I put drops on. 
 That Rocky is what I almost always grab for 90% of riding, but, when 
riding 8+ hours a day, wouldn't a bit of of frame flex and a slight loss of 
sureness be preferable to predicable but solid?  This is a genuine question 
- Atlantis clearances on something approaching Rambouillet tubing, made for 
26" wheels?

IanA.




On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:04:16 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
>    Franklin Frames in Ohio will build you anything your heart desires :)   
> And he does not have a long wait time.  Jack Trumbull is prea tty much a 
> one man operation in rural Ohio .  He is definitely under the radar, so 
> speak  He told me that Riv once contacted him about building some frames, 
> but he declined . He also paints and does any type of frame repair.  You 
> can get a full touring or any other type of rig from $1400-$1680 for your 
> choice of steel, lugged or fillet brazed.  He builds from titanium, 
> stainless and carbon .  
> I have one of his "Bradley" customs in "sport touring" geometry with 18" 
> chainstays in Reynolds 531ST, and man do Iooooove that ride.  I have a 
> Bombadil also, which would make a fine touring rig, but it's a bit stiff 
> for me for every day fun riding .  My Bradley is just  wonderful riding , 
> as it has more flex in all the right places that it floats over the uneven 
> chip and seal roads I ride alot on .  It's as completely stable at 5mph on 
> steep uphills as it is 50 mph down.  
>
> Jack does most of his business through local Ohio shops, but does sell to 
> individuals that don't live locally .  It would be best just to call him to 
> talk about it. He's real easy to chat with !   He's been doing this for 
> over 35 years, so he's done and seen about everything bike related :) 
>
> http://www.franklinframe.com/
>

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