Bill - Sounds about right. CF likely will be lighter than a similarly kitted steel. Although per my message above, if you wanted to do full out loaded touring on a CF bike, I wonder how thick the tubes (and thus heavy they would have to be).
Custom CF bikes as well as the higher end off the shelf CF are more expensive than decent steel competition. I do not know whether this reflects market or manufacturing demands. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:21:49 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for > the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb > without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is > pictured without pedals. > > I assume we could spec that Roadeo with the same parts, and we'd probably > be 2 to 3 pounds heavier and about $1500-$2000 less expensive? Somewhere > in there. > > If both bikes had the same tires, I bet they'd both be awesome. > > On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:12:08 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame >> and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take >>> the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with >>> similar clearances, similar "braze-ons", and with similar long-term >>> durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much >>> weight would you save with the carbon fiber? >>> >>> I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of >>> CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal >>> use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. >>> >>> Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra >>> measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of >>> frame. >>> >>> That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor >>> any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame >>> that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon >>> fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as >>> their steel counterparts. >>> >>> Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the >>> CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality >>> tubing. Again, how much weight difference? >>> >>> So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing >>> apples to kumkwats. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.