Aaron-
Rivendell has 50 and 52 cm Rambouillets in their frame specials
sections.  My wife, who is a little taller than your friends, recently
got one of the 52's after a long look for a versatile road bike that
would fit her without toe overlap or other issues (she is relatively
short waisted and has short arms). Keven at RBW advised us over the
phone and the fit worked out really well with the standard stem.  The
handlebars are set just above saddle height.  The bike has 26"/559bsd
wheels and comes with 1.25" Paselas.  It is basically set up as a
sports tourer but their are lots of 1x26" tires available (conversely
there is plenty of extra clearance to go wider). $2,350 (bike minus
saddle and pedals) is expensive for a beginner but an excellent value.
-Pete

On Sep 2, 5:03 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the
> group.
>
> I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both
> fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they
> can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming
> they could even fit one (at 5'1" and 5'3" they are both probably too
> short anyway).
>
> Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by
> the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.).
>
> But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the
> possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for
> something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without
> going custom like Luna Cycles?
>
> Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their
> stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or
> just below saddle height?
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
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