Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it!
Ryan On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:18, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what >> Waterford is willing to accept. > > Waterford could be driving this. From their site it appears the only > frame offered with DT braze ons is the (actually rather attractive) > Hetchins Swallow Tribute touring bike. None of the Waterford road > racing bikes have DT braze ons. GP's write up said he put more of the > design specs in Waterford's hands because he was trying to meet a > specific weight total. Maybe Waterford believes accommodating DT > braze ons adds too much weight. > >> Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an >> upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like >> Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as >> it was black). > > This has always been Riv's policy on paint though. In this instance, > I do not mind, as the stock Roadeo scheme is close to the Trek 959, > the bike I dreamed about owning during my High School days. > > > On Aug 28, 2:07 pm, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: >> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply >> reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who >> was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required >> "system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its >> braze- >> on's are only really useful with a shift integrated (e.g. Shimano) >> system. >> >> I also find it perplexing that Rivendell, apparently, will not >> accommodate a customer request to have downtube shifter bosses on the >> frame. This is not a cheap bicycle, $2,000 is a good chunk of >> change. Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what >> Waterford is willing to accept. >> >> Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an >> upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like >> Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as >> it was black). >> >> Jim >> >> On Aug 28, 11:06 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? >> >>> Indeed there are. >> >>> However, I have two lovely NOS sets of Simplex braze on dt levers >>> with >>> the sunburst (the older, harder to get in good NOS condition Simplex >>> levers), an NOS Simplex white plastic braze on set and two beautiful >>> NOS Campy Record braze on lever sets. >> >>> I readily admit we are going into persnickity parts collector >>> territory here, but I really would like to have a bike where I could >>> rotate use of some of those lovely old parts >> >>> Maybe if I had some swell clamp on sets I would feel differently. >>> Real nice NOS clamp on shifters are far and few between, however. I >>> have been actively collecting for six years now and can only >>> remember >>> one or two being offered for sale. >> >>> Besides, it would look kind of odd to have such a lovely frame with >>> unused cable routers above a clamp on shifter. >>> On Aug 28, 12:33 pm, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? IIRC, many early >>>> steel frames had cable guides and bottle holders attached by wrap >>>> around bands, not braze ons, so this would not be that unusual. >> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >>>>> JoelMatthews<joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques >>>>>> Anquetil and >>>>>> Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons.- >>>>>> Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
