Right, but you were comparing it to the Nitto, which is heavier because it has the vertical portion that inserts into the head tube. The Ritchey and VO do not, but you then have to factor in the weight of the fork tube and spacers, etc. My uneducated guess is that it's a wash.
On Aug 14, 9:41 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > But the same applies to the Ritchey stem that was under discussion > above, since it too is threadless. > > On Aug 14, 6:12 pm, R Gonet <richard.go...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > But don't forget that with the Nitto stem you are saving the weight of > > the fork tube extension, whatever that may be. > > > On Aug 14, 8:52 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In all fairness to Mark, it must be kept in mind that the goal was to > > > build the prototype with weight in mind, given that the Roadeo is > > > intended as a lightweight club rider. > > > > I'm not sure about the particular Ritchey stem he used, but since many > > > of those sorts of stems weigh just a little over 100g, there is a not > > > inconsiderable weight savings compared to the otherwise very nice > > > Nitto stem that Steve linked to above, which weighs in the > > > neighborhood of 300g. That's somewhere between a 1/3 to 1/2 lb. > > > difference, if my math is correct. > > > > If they succeed in getting the final build below 20 lbs, it would go > > > some way toward demonstrating that lugged steel and lightweight bikes > > > are not mutually exclusive categories, even if the bike still carries > > > what some may consider a 3 or 4 lb weight "penalty" with respect to > > > the latest carbon machines. > > > > On Aug 14, 5:03 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:36 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > > > >> On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Rocky B wrote: > > > > > >>> Great-looking bike. Can't wait to see the final version. > > > > > >>> Is it me or does lugged frames with threadless stems look weird? I > > > > >>> can never get used to them together. > > > > > >> They looked fine when Alex Singer and Rene Herse did them 50 years > > > > >> ago. And Tom Ritchey did them in the 1970s, too. I think the issue > > > > >> is that the modern threadless stem tends to have a big fat tube > > > > >> instead of an elegant looking tube for the extension. > > > > > > It doesn't have to be that way: > > > > >http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/tstem-nitto_tless.jpg > > > > >http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/tstem-nitto_tless3.jpg > > > > > > I'd call that "elegant" > > > > > Me, too. Hence why I mentioned them earlier as preferable to the fat > > > > black Ritchey stem in the photo. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---