But don't forget that with the Nitto stem you are saving the weight of
the fork tube extension, whatever that may be.

On Aug 14, 8:52 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In all fairness to Mark, it must be kept in mind that the goal was to
> build the prototype with weight in mind, given that the Roadeo is
> intended as a lightweight club rider.
>
> I'm not sure about the particular Ritchey stem he used, but since many
> of those sorts of stems weigh just a little over 100g, there is a not
> inconsiderable weight savings compared to the otherwise very nice
> Nitto stem that Steve linked to above, which weighs in the
> neighborhood of 300g. That's somewhere between a 1/3 to 1/2 lb.
> difference, if my math is correct.
>
> If they succeed in getting the final build below 20 lbs, it would go
> some way toward demonstrating that lugged steel and lightweight bikes
> are not mutually exclusive categories, even if the bike still carries
> what some may consider a 3 or 4 lb weight "penalty" with respect to
> the latest carbon machines.
>
> On Aug 14, 5:03 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:36 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> > >> On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Rocky B wrote:
>
> > >>> Great-looking bike.  Can't wait to see the final version.
>
> > >>> Is it me or does lugged frames with threadless stems look weird?  I
> > >>> can never get used to them together.
>
> > >> They looked fine when Alex Singer and Rene Herse did them 50 years
> > >> ago.  And Tom Ritchey did them in the 1970s, too.  I think the issue
> > >> is that the modern threadless stem tends to have a big fat tube
> > >> instead of an elegant looking tube for the extension.
>
> > > It doesn't have to be that way:
> > >http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/tstem-nitto_tless.jpg
> > >http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/tstem-nitto_tless3.jpg
>
> > > I'd call that "elegant"
>
> > Me, too.  Hence why I mentioned them earlier as preferable to the fat  
> > black Ritchey stem in the photo.
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