I think the things that would really make this a "road bike" to me are:

--steeper angles up front, shorter chainstays out back, and a lighter
tubeset.

IF you make the tubeset as light as it should be, the bike will ride like
poop with a rack and moderate load.  So limiting things to fender mounts
seems sensible.

Tighter clearances for brakes and tires are an aesthetic must for some--they
make the bike look racey--but it's hard to see how they really make the bike
feel more racy once you put some nice 25s on there and are actually riding
it.  I think clearance for 28s + fenders would be about perfect.

Dustin  


> From: Esteban <proto...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
> 
> 
> The clearances on the Ram/Rom were about perfect for a road bike -
> 23mm if you like, 27/28mm as road default, but the ability to fit a 35
> (or 37) in there if need be.  This makes your road bike "expand-
> able" (not *that* kind of expanded) into a great trail bike or even
> cyclocross (if you don't have a Legolas in your closet).  The Jack
> Browns I have on the bike now have taken me over all kinds of terrain,
> including singletrack, thanks to David's gutsy Redlands routes:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3683083953/
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 8, 9:32 am, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Even if it's "dead" 1" threadless is pretty easy to do- most 1 1/8"
>> stems come with a shim for 1" and then all you need is spacers and a
>> headset, which i'm sure Riv could source easily (i think Ritchey makes
>> one?).  Definitely easier than trying to make a threaded setup work
>> with a 1 1/8" headtube.
>> 
>> I love this category of bikes- "common sense" road bikes.  Excited to
>> see what GP comes up with!
>> 
>> -Jeremy "Owner of Two 1" Threadless Bikes" Till
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 8:25 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> on 7/8/09 8:09 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> I hope with this new road bike that it'll be a traditional frame like
>>>> the Rambouillet or Romulus and not "expanded". I think the expanded
>>>> frame totally has a place  but so do traditional frames. I wonder how
>>>> they'll do the threadless/threaded fork. Does that mean they'll have
>>>> two frames made, a threadless with 1 1/8" headtube and a threaded with
>>>> a 1" headtube?
>> 
>>> I doubt they'll do two different frames.  It would be simpler to simply be
>>> able to swap forks. I'd bet 1 1/8" as 1" t/less is pretty dead.
>> 
>>> - J
>> 
>>> --
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>>> -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light"
> > 
> 



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