Well, let's hope that anybody who buys one or more of these items
takes the shipping charge into account when determining how much to
bid. At least it's a flat rate, so there shouldn't be any surprises. I
don't have a problem with any shipping charge strategy, as long as the
terms are clear to the buyer.

Personally, I get a lot of use out of my Little Joe, but I seldom use
the Hoss for non-camping trips.

On Apr 22, 10:04 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 9:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Tim McNamara  
> > <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > When I sell something to someone on the list or- for that matter- on
> > eBay, I do not feel it is necessary or even appropriate to try to
> > recoup money for my time spent packaging an item for shipping and
> > taking it to the Post Office.  I feel that the time and effort is
> > just a given and part of the process, to which I agreed when I
> > elected to sell my item on eBay or through the list.
>
> > But why not? I see no objection to having a clear shipping plus  
> > handling price stated in the advertisement, be it on the boblist or  
> > ebay or whatever selling avenue it may be. If I think that the  
> > handling fee is too much, I won't bid.
>
> > My brother sells huge amounts on ebay and adds a small cushion into  
> > his shipping charges for packing materials and the labor of packing  
> > and going to the PO. He packs very well -- not like me, who am  
> > messy if secure -- and spends a lot of time on shipping. He told me  
> > once when I said some people complained  about this sort of thing,  
> > "I'm not going to [effing] give away my time and labor." He  
> > certainly packs and ships cheaper than Nashbar, say. And he has  
> > nothing but good feedback.
>
> That's exactly the sense of entitlement to which I was referring.  I  
> simply don't share that attitude about my time and labor for an  
> avocation, I guess.  I'm not selling things on eBay trying to make a  
> living or a profit- it's a garage sale as far as I am concerned.  
> And, like you, if I feel a seller's charges are excessive I don't  
> bid.  Happens a lot, and more and more these days.  I have bought  
> about 1/10 as many items on eBay as it transitions from being an  
> auction service to a retail service.  For a retailer to charge a  
> handling fee to pay an employee to pack an item makes sense to me,  
> because they are incurring an expense.  Putting something in a box  
> and mailing it in my spare time incurs little to no expense.  I just  
> charge the buyer actual shipping cost.
>
> When selling on this list, I see the sale as a service to me (I'm  
> clearing stuff out of my house and the people who buy the items are  
> doing me a favor).  Why would I charge for that?
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