On Apr 22, 2009, at 9:10 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Tim McNamara  
> <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> When I sell something to someone on the list or- for that matter- on
> eBay, I do not feel it is necessary or even appropriate to try to
> recoup money for my time spent packaging an item for shipping and
> taking it to the Post Office.  I feel that the time and effort is
> just a given and part of the process, to which I agreed when I
> elected to sell my item on eBay or through the list.
>
> But why not? I see no objection to having a clear shipping plus  
> handling price stated in the advertisement, be it on the boblist or  
> ebay or whatever selling avenue it may be. If I think that the  
> handling fee is too much, I won't bid.
>
> My brother sells huge amounts on ebay and adds a small cushion into  
> his shipping charges for packing materials and the labor of packing  
> and going to the PO. He packs very well -- not like me, who am  
> messy if secure -- and spends a lot of time on shipping. He told me  
> once when I said some people complained  about this sort of thing,  
> "I'm not going to [effing] give away my time and labor." He  
> certainly packs and ships cheaper than Nashbar, say. And he has  
> nothing but good feedback.

That's exactly the sense of entitlement to which I was referring.  I  
simply don't share that attitude about my time and labor for an  
avocation, I guess.  I'm not selling things on eBay trying to make a  
living or a profit- it's a garage sale as far as I am concerned.   
And, like you, if I feel a seller's charges are excessive I don't  
bid.  Happens a lot, and more and more these days.  I have bought  
about 1/10 as many items on eBay as it transitions from being an  
auction service to a retail service.  For a retailer to charge a  
handling fee to pay an employee to pack an item makes sense to me,  
because they are incurring an expense.  Putting something in a box  
and mailing it in my spare time incurs little to no expense.  I just  
charge the buyer actual shipping cost.

When selling on this list, I see the sale as a service to me (I'm  
clearing stuff out of my house and the people who buy the items are  
doing me a favor).  Why would I charge for that?

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