Sorry, I have no better quantification beyond anecdotal evidence. Ken
Y up there has some experience with Shimano dynamo hub failures that
he may wish to share. Besides his experiences, I have had at least 2-3
returned after less than one winter of commuting. I often buy them as
prebuilt wheels, so warranty is usually not feasible unless I want to
disassemble and rebuild a wheel for free.

The main problem is that the electrical system is sealed with a
substance that resembles plumber's putty. This seal deteriorates and
crumbles, I assume as a result of the salt and other ice melting
chemicals they use on roads and paths around here, combined perhaps
with getting brittle in the cold.

I still think the Shimano hubs are a good value, but I now try to
discourage folks from using them much in the winter slop.


On Apr 2, 11:40 am, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Can you quantify this any better?
>
> I run a Son hub on my brevet bike and a Shimano n71 on my commuter.  I put 
> way more miles in all types of weather on my commuter and the Shimano hub is 
> still going strong.  I have ridden it through 3 New England winters.   I 
> bought it because it was cheaper and a failure on a commute is not as 
> critical to me as a failure on a brevet.
>
> In your experience how many seasons of year round riding does the average 
> Shimano n70/71/72 make it through before needing to be replaced?  How many 
> years for the SON before being replaced or needing a rebuild?  
>
> Since I was considering having a new set of Brevet wheels built and was 
> thinking about using a shimano hub this information will be quite helpful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Larry Powers
>
> "just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a 
> double back flip" - John Hiatt
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:05:55 -0700
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: shimano alfine generator hubs
> > From: thill....@gmail.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > The Alfine is one of the higher-end Shimano dynamo hubs. I have no
> > experience with it. But experience with other Shimano dynamos is that
> > they are functionally comparable to a SON in everything but
> > durability. Winter filth around here kills them, and they are not
> > serviceable.
> > Jim Thill
> > Minneapolis, MN
>
> > On Apr 2, 10:09 am, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Has anyone come across one of these, yet:
>
> > >http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/prod...
>
> > > b/c they look very very shiny and I'm curious how they stand up to the 
> > > SON's.
>
> > > -sv
>
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