>From what I hear it is common in the pro peloton to use a fork with
longer axle to crown measurement and/or a longer rake for races with a
lot of pavé sections. Hincapie for instance used a low end Bontrager
OCLV carbon fork that fatal day in the 2006 Paris-Roubaix.

On 23 Jan, 20:40, Gino Zahnd <ginoza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally know a person who re-raked his Atlantis fork with
> questionable to no results. This person rides extremely long events,
> and ultimately his conclusion on the experiment was: Meh. It didn't do
> anything.  Eventually he had a new fork built, and it seems to have
> changed the handling with a large front-only load. But wheel flop is
> still a factor because the headtube is slack.
>
> That said, he had a different rando-specific bike built, and it is
> still on the higher side of trail figures at 57mm. And it carries a
> handlebar bag perfectly fine. So is low trail really the be-all
> end-all thing to focus on?  Methinks not.
>
> As Cyclofiend stated, there are FAR more factors to a bike's handling
> than just the fork rake. And if you're looking at low trail as The
> Thing That Will Help, you can't look at it without also taking into
> consideration headtube angle, tire size, what size loads you generally
> carry, where you carry them, etc.
>
> I ride brevets on a Saluki (http://flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2221488837/) with 
> a medium sized
> Inujirushi handlebar bag, and I don't have problems. I can ride no
> handed in just about any condition other than uphill at <10mph. But
> really, who climbs without their hands on the bars? That isn't
> efficient.  Oh, and heavy cross winds seem to bite me with a bar bag
> up front.  I've never ridden a low trail bike, so I can't compare the
> uphill-no-hands or crosswind factors.
>
> So to answer your philosophical question, my opinion is that you'd be
> taking a bike designed for certain types of riding, and trying to make
> it something that it is not. It isn't designed for that one very
> specific type of load carrying, and anything you do to it is less than
> ideal because you're only looking at one of many factors.
>
> Gino
>
> (sorry, Jim, about continuing this thread)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of
> > the time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing
> > steep hills I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because
> > I would also be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with
> > getting a new fork for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv
> > Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying
> > one of their bikes to a low trail bike goes against their philosophy and In
> > my mind creates a bike that is no longer a Rivendell.
>
> > This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many
> > people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my
> > beautiful orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to
> > modify it by changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not
> > sure that I can say it is a Rivendell.
>
> > Larry Powers
>
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> > a double back flip" - John Hiatt
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