on 1/23/09 6:51 AM, Larry Powers at lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of
> the time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing steep
> hills I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because I would
> also be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with getting a new
> fork for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant
> intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their bikes to a low
> trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a bike that is
> no longer a Rivendell.
>  
> This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many
> people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my beautiful
> orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to modify it by
> changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not sure that I
> can say it is a Rivendell.

I worry a little that this has the potential to become one of those "winter"
theoretical arguments. ;^)  Among other lists, trail theory has become a bit
divisive.

It seems that some people feel that fork rake is the only determining factor
in performance. (Personally, I doubt that sincerely - there are just too
many other variables in frame design.) This seems to be influenced by the
mainstream cycling aftermarket fork market, which is quite significant. The
fact that most of the bikes for which those are marketed are largely similar
in dimensions, despite the wide variety of manufacturer claims and paint
jobs.

Specific to your question, for me, it seems that adding a different fork
would be the same as chopping the chainstays to shorten the wheelbase. It's
essentially a "hot rod" mod, making the Rivendell you started with similar
to the Model A that became the Roadster. (And I'm not making the analogy
based on speed differences between the two.)

They would be related, but they would be different bicycles. You certainly
couldn't expect someone who has a similar bike with original spec's to hop
on and not notice a difference.

- Jim

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