> Internal gear hubs like the Alfine have some drawbacks. The big one is
> that they make wheel removal for flat fixes somewhat more difficult
> than it is with a derailleur set-up.

The Rohloff designed for OEM drop out disc brakes at least has a handy
little device where the cables meet the hub that snap on and off.  I
guess I assumed Shimano would do something similar if not better as
the conventional wisdom anyway is Japanese companies do user
interfaces better than German.

I like the convenience of the Rohloff for touring, but do not tour in
the cold and have never gone to some remote area. (although I note
extreme conditions companies like Tout push the Rohloff)

On Jan 20, 8:37 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The LX hubs are a great value. Practically speaking, you give up
> almost nothing by getting the LX hubs rather than Phil hubs.
>
> Internal gear hubs like the Alfine have some drawbacks. The big one is
> that they make wheel removal for flat fixes somewhat more difficult
> than it is with a derailleur set-up. Since the Bleriot has vertical
> dropouts, you'd need a chain tensioner, which can be another source of
> headaches. Also, the Alfine doesn't work great in really cold weather,
> which is an issue here in MN, but probably not in CA. And if something
> goes wrong with it (which is rare), not many bike shops will be
> prepared to fix it. Finally, these big gear hubs are on the heavy
> side. By my calculation, there is more downside than upside.
>
> On Jan 20, 7:57 pm, Tyler <mock...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I bought a used Bleriot some time ago that came with wheels made with
> > Sunrim CR-18 rims and they're unquestionably from the oversized
> > batch.  I knew about the oversized rims before I purchased the bike
> > and decided the bike was well worth the price even if I had to replace
> > the wheelset.  The wheels have been great aside from how unbearably
> > difficult it is to fix a flat.. so far I've simply worked through the
> > problem with brute force.  However, yesterday I spent over half an
> > hour trying to just get the tire off the rear wheel and snapped a tire
> > lever in the process.  I gave up and decided it was time to get a non-
> > faulty set of wheels... it's hard enough to fix a punctured tube at
> > home with these rims; I'd hate to have to do this on the side of the
> > road (which I've been spared, so far).
>
> > I know very little about wheels so I'm fishing for advice from those
> > more knowledgeable.  The existing wheels are 36-spoke with Shimano
> > Deore LX hubs; there's a 7-speed Hyperglide cassette on the rear.  I'm
> > a big fellow (6ft, 220+ lbs) so I need something that's going to be
> > strong enough for my daily commuting and light touring.
>
> > I'm thinking about buying a built wheelset from Rivendell.  A set of
> > wheels built with LX hubs is about half the price of a set of wheels
> > with Phil "Rivy" hubs (w/ freewheel).  I don't understand what you
> > gain by using the higher quality hubs, I'm sure a difference exists
> > but I don't know what that is.  Is it worth the extra money and why?
>
> > Alternatively, I'm kicking around the idea of building a rear wheel
> > around an Alfine internally geared hub; I've always liked the idea of
> > an internally geared hub for my kind of riding and it seems alot of
> > folks swear by them for everyday riding.  If I want to go this route
> > now would be a good time since I need to replace the wheels anyway.  I
> > know that a few folks on this list have rivendells with this kind of
> > setup (having searched through the old postings), I'm curious to know
> > how those people feel about their shifting setups now that they've
> > used them for months or years since last posting.
>
> > Any input is appreciated, thank you!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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