> I also don't think it's relevant

Looks are relevant when the discussion is Rivendell.  Certainly Rivs
have a lot more going for them than their good looks, but looks is
part of the reason they have such a loyal following.  Otherwise, a lot
more Riv owners would have bought a Surly.

> they can be serviced or adjusted with just a 5mm Allen wrench, while
> threaded headsets require large wrenches that have no other purpose on
> a bike (or anywhere in my life).

I don't follow this.  You don't have to do anything with the headset
when you adjust a quill stem.

On Dec 24, 4:27 pm, Invisible <brooks.wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With respect to your opinion, I don't think standard threadless stems
> are ugly. I also don't think it's relevant.
>
> I prefer threadless stems for the reasons I listed in my first post to
> this thread: they make it easier to change stems and handlebars, and
> they can be serviced or adjusted with just a 5mm Allen wrench, while
> threaded headsets require large wrenches that have no other purpose on
> a bike (or anywhere in my life).
>
> Others here clearly prefer threaded stems. That's fine, too.
>
> It looks like I'd need to ask Rivendell if they have uncut stems
> available for use with a threadless headset. I still believe that
> using a threadless headset on a threaded steer tube is no problem.
>
> -Wesley
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