Tarik,

Hardly the same, steerer tubes break on all types of frames, but you will be
hard pressed to find a simpler mid-fork blade failure especially, if you
disregard any forks with braze-ons. Bicycle Manufactures are not playing
with a full deck when it comes to carbon fork and frame design, and to
assert otherwise is misleading.

Joe

On 11/24/08, tarik saleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Sure,
>
> http://greenblatt.smugmug.com/gallery/4369627_VBaPB#367598179_7xqDb-XL-LB
> Thats a JRA failure, not a crash. The fork just separated while
> riding. Is that similar enough?
>
> I think that is a kogswell that was made at a same plant where
> surly/soma make there stuff, possibly others more germane to the list.
>
> Again, there have been plenty of shoddily made steel frames that still
> are out there and plenty of steel frames that exist from reputable
> builders that have broken suddenly.
>
> . I am not going to defend carbon as the right material choice for
> you, it probably isn't if you are on this list,  but you should not be
> so confident that crap like that will never happen to you because you
> are on a steel bike.
>
>
> Tarik
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Joe Szokoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Tarik,
> >
> > Can you show me something like this in steel??
> >
> >
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphotos.php?id=/photos/2008/news/nov08/nov22news/DSC_0021
> >
> > smug and self-congratulatory,
> > --
> > Joe Szokoli
> > New York City
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tarik Saleh
> tas at tariksaleh dot com
> in los alamos, po box 208, 87544
> http://tariksaleh.com
> all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com
>
> >
>


-- 
Joe Szokoli
New York City

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