On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 11:55 AM Matthias Felleisen <matth...@felleisen.org> wrote:
> > Jack, > > the word “diversity” is inherently political. It is designed as a wedge, a > tool to separate people into groups and then from each other. It is used as > a kudgel by one side of the political spectrum to relentlessly hit the > other side. It was bad enough to have been told that there were too many > “cis-gendered white males” at RacketCon. > > [...] I do not wish to see this mailing list turn into another political echo > chamber, because then I have to remove myself from it and the public Racket > community. [...] It sounds like you've had some tough experiences lately, and, quite reasonably, you don't want to go through that again. I totally sympathize; I have just finished a very unpleasant judicial harassment by the oversensitive moderators of a forum where I publish fiction. It's exhausting and bruising. It actually might not be a bad idea for you to step away for a few days and get your energy back -- I'm mostly doing that on my forum. If that's not something you want to do, you might find the conversation less infuriating if you try to focus on the Charitable Reading technique: put things down to poor word choice or miscommunication instead of malice. If someone says something that you feel is offensive, insensitive, etc, assume they didn't mean it that way and look for an alternate interpretation. For example, I assumed that the use of "diversity" was in the sense of "variety of experience and viewpoint" not race, gender, etc. I totally sympathize with not wanting the list -- and, in particular, a thread about language design -- to transform into a social justice debate. That's offtopic. Still, I'm sure we would all agree that the arrival of people with new ideas and experience could only be helpful to Racket. > — Matthias > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Jack Firth <jackhfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Matthias, I ask that you please not respond to discussion about the > diversity of the Racket community by saying it's a political topic and > politics have no place here. That statement alone is political and makes > many people feel unwelcome, including me. > > > > On the topic of a new syntax: I am strongly in favor. I think it will > remove barriers to entry that have deterred many potential Racketeers. And > if there's one community I trust to put care and thoughtfulness into a > surface syntax design, it's the Racket community. > > > > On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-6, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:44 PM, someone wrote: > > > > > > - I am indeed very for growth in the community, though my main > interest > > > in growth is in seeing a wider diversity of participants than just > > > raw numbers. Obviously other peoples' mileage may vary. > > > > > > This is politics and politics has no business whatsoever on this mailing > list. I believe there are things such as Facebook, Instagram and other > Web-chambers where political opinions are welcome and echoes will always > confirm your opinions. > > > > ;; - - - > > > > Our policy has always been that everyone, absolutely everyone, is > welcome on this technical list to discuss technical issues. We don’t > exclude anyone. And everyone gets treated the same and gets productive > responses if possible. In particular, politics stays off this list; it’s > divisive enough in the rest of the world. > > > > Thank you — Matthias > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Racket Users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/a63d9bdb-4d5d-49e8-9451-d6524ac24752%40googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/87B3D875-42D4-4951-B08D-96BF28468EF8%40felleisen.org > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CAE8gKococNvRv4R-MSjkcdZVs2eRLc7xEEfTa_oHvYh5RqLdmQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
