Unfortunately, Whalesong's current fork requires an old version of Racket and hasn't seen a commit to master in several months. Racketscript is under active development, though, and provides a mostly- complete implementation of Racket for Javascript. Seems comparable to Clojurescript in its vision. https://github.com/vishesh/racketscript
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Thomas Lynch wrote: > Apparently Whalesong is such an alterntiave. > https://github.com/jashkenas/coffeescript/wiki/list-of-languages-that-compile-to-js > A Lisp dialect, Clojure, has caused a lot of young folks to ask > questions/to think about Lisp > (https://m.oursky.com/why-i-chose-clojure-over-javascript-24f045daab7e) > .> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:31 PM, David Storrs > <[email protected]> wrote:>> My suggestion would be that the single > largest thing that would make>> Racket take off is if it could become a > replacement for Javascript. >> The browser is the default GUI for most work these days, and doing >> real-time interfaces in the browser requires Javascript. If Racket >> could run inside the browser and was more convenient to work >> with than>> Javascript then it would start climbing the hockey stick. That >> would>> be an enormous project and I don't even know how you would get the >> popular browsers to adopt it; forking the browsers won't work and nor>> will >> making a plugin / addon -- it's got to run out of the box >> so that>> developers can rely on the fact that visitors to their site will be >> able to use it. >> >> For now, something that made it trivial to compile Racket to >> Javascript is probably the best option. As it happens, I believe >> there is some effort in that direction. :> >> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Neil Van Dyke >> <[email protected]> wrote:>> > Eric Griffis wrote on 10/11/2017 07:44 PM: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:58 PM Neil Van Dyke >> >> <[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> * Being there soon with a Web Assembly and HTML5 plus server >> >> full-stack >> >> story, in case developers respond favorably to that. >> >> >> >> >> >> Web back-ends are my wheelhouse. It sure would make my >> >> professional life>> >> easier... Not gonna lie, this isn't something I'd >> >> look forward to >> >> banging>> >> out alone. >> > >> > >> > There are some scalable HTTP protocol handling things I'd like >> > to try,>> > including some hardcore systems-ish programming, and then >> > multiple >> > parties>> > (including me) could layer independent framework-y things over >> > that>> > (server-side-only, and client-side-too). >> > >> > The WebAssembly part is what might be an emerging opportunity, >> > but am>> > guessing the best way involves working with the tentative new >> > Chez >> > backend>> > for Racket. (Also, WebAssembly didn't look very simple nor >> > yet as>> > well-documented as you'd want, and looks still being hammered >> > out. So,>> > knowing how adopted Web standards tend to happen... you >> > might have >> > to put in>> > considerable effort to catch up with and track it, buy a >> > gorilla >> > suit, munch>> > some beetle grubs[1], and hopefully become accepted by the >> > pack, >> > to be>> > confident that Racket will be a first-class citizen in >> > WebAssembly.)>> > >> >> * Push DSL-based programming, for which Racket might already >> >> have the>> >> best technology. (The other day, I saw someone >> >> looking to >> >> hire>> >> developers to use some DSL-based speculative methodology >> >> thing...>> >> in Ruby.) >> >> >> >> >> >> This might also be interesting. Any concrete demand out there to >> >> drive the>> >> process? >> > >> > >> > Chattering about DSLs now seems mainstream. Also, Agile-esque >> > upstart>> > methodologists are always clamoring to invent and brand >> > approaches, now>> > including applications of DSLs. :) >> > >> > (DSLs can be little mini-languages used by programmers as part of >> > any kind>> > of programming, they can be used by programmers mix >> > traditional >> > language>> > paradigms in a code base, they can be used to support domain >> > experts/specialists capturing and maintaining knowledge/behavior >> > separate>> > from programmers.) >> > >> >> >> >> The Godot game engine is kinda like this, but for Python. It has a >> >> lot of>> >> rough edges, which could help design a good Racket >> >> alternative. >> >> There may be>> >> a ton of reusable functionality in a project like that. >> > >> > >> > Over a decade ago, someone was actually doing game engine-ish stuff >> > using>> > PLT Scheme (earlier version of Racket), to, IIRC, develop a 3D >> > training>> > simulator for first-responders in emergency scenarios. It >> > might've >> > used the>> > open-sourced Quake engine, or just built atop OpenGL; I forget >> > whether I>> > heard. At the time, I guess a Lisp was a big enough win for >> > that, >> > and there>> > were a lot fewer and more primitive 3D game engines, that it >> > made >> > sense.>> > Today, whenever there is again a win to using Racket, I'd >> > probably >> > end up>> > taking an off-the-shelf (preferably libre-licensed) 3D game >> > engine >> > that met>> > all the other requirements, and make it work well with Racket. >> > >> > [1] Gary Larson, The Far Side, "So you're a *real* gorilla, are >> > you? ...".>> > >> > https://i.pinimg.com/736x/da/ed/ed/daeded47decfd2a200aca58b00a9d0e5.jpg>> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and >> > stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket- >> > [email protected][1]. 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