Mark The two computers that exhibit this are both from 2017. The one that works correctly is a bit older. Now that it is reasonably clear that R is doing the right thing, the question is how to fix this in Office.
I just tried one more thing — I have an RTF document with embedded JPEGs that was created on one of the problem computers. I just opened the document on a fourth computer (purchased in 2013) running El Capitan. In Word 2016, half-size; in Word 2008, full size. So, Word appears to be the culprit, although not consistently. Dennis Dennis Fisher MD P < (The "P Less Than" Company) Phone / Fax: 1-866-PLessThan (1-866-753-7784) www.PLessThan.com <http://www.plessthan.com/> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa...@me.com> wrote: > > Interesting. > > Given that I am not [yet] experiencing this behavior, which has a retina > display (mid 2014 15-inch MBP), it makes me wonder if there was some level of > corruption in the upgrade to Office via the Autoupdate tool from MS. Unless > both of you have much more recent hardware by chance... > > Dennis, have you tried to do an uninstall of Office and a clean re-install? > > Regards, > > Marc > > >> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Colin A. Smith <co...@colinsmith.org> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I’m seeing the exact same behavior on my version of Word (16.11.1 - 180319). >> It only happened in the last month or two, so I was suspecting it had >> something to do with this recent change: >> >> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/office-for-mac-finally-has-real-time-collaboration-in-16-9-0-update/ >> >> <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/office-for-mac-finally-has-real-time-collaboration-in-16-9-0-update/> >> >> It seems like that could be pretty a pretty major under the hood change to >> me. I thought it could have something to do retina/non-retina 2X scaling. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Colin >> >>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 16:49, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dennis, >>> >>> Very strange. >>> >>> Perhaps you might consider completely removing all Office components and >>> doing a fully clean install? >>> >>> If the PDF that I sent exhibited the same behavior as one you create >>> locally, that would tend to suggest that the problem is not your R >>> installation. >>> >>> More info here: >>> >>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/uninstall-office-2016-for-mac-eefa1199-5b58-43af-8a3d-b73dc1a8cae3 >>> >>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/uninstall-office-2016-for-mac-eefa1199-5b58-43af-8a3d-b73dc1a8cae3> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Marc >>> >>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Dennis Fisher <fis...@plessthan.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> >>>> Office is fully updated (see version as yours) >>>> Original size is 1/2 of the intended size. >>>> When the drag the file to TextEdit, the size is as intended! >>>> So, the mystery continues. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Dennis Fisher MD >>>> P < (The "P Less Than" Company) >>>> Phone / Fax: 1-866-PLessThan (1-866-753-7784) >>>> www.PLessThan.com <http://www.plessthan.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:marc_schwa...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dennis, >>>>> >>>>> I reviewed the Preference settings in Word and did not see anything that >>>>> to my eye would be relevant to default embedded object sizes. >>>>> >>>>> You might check to be sure that your Office installation is fully >>>>> updated. There have been several updates of late. My Word is showing >>>>> version 16.11.1 (180319) in the About Word dialog. >>>>> >>>>> Also, right click on the embedded PDF in Word and check "Size and >>>>> Position...". On the "Size" tab, see what the dialog box is showing for >>>>> "Original size" at the bottom, and be sure that "Scale" is set to 100% >>>>> for both height and width. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Marc >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Dennis Fisher <fis...@plessthan.com >>>>>> <mailto:fis...@plessthan.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Marc >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for trying this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your PDF exhibited the problematic behavior (half-size). It appears >>>>>> that we are using the same version of the OS. We are using the same >>>>>> generation of Word (Office Home & Business 2016 for Mac (Work At Home)) >>>>>> although there are probably several versions of Office floating around. >>>>>> This left the version of R — but I can confirm the same problematic >>>>>> behavior with R 3.4.4. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of note, this behavior exists on two different OS X machines but a third >>>>>> computer with OS X 13.2 works correctly. >>>>>> Also, when I use R to create an RTF document that contains JPEG images, >>>>>> the same problem happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am at a loss — perhaps there is something weird about my version of >>>>>> Office or some preference that is set incorrectly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Fisher MD >>>>>> P < (The "P Less Than" Company) >>>>>> Phone / Fax: 1-866-PLessThan (1-866-753-7784) >>>>>> www.PLessThan.com <http://www.plessthan.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa...@me.com >>>>>>> <mailto:marc_schwa...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Dennis Fisher <fis...@plessthan.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:fis...@plessthan.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> R 3.4.3 >>>>>>>> OS X 13.3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Colleagues >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have encountered surprising behavior in the following circumstance: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. I create a one-page PDF in R. The command might be: >>>>>>>> pdf(“/path/to/file”, width=5, height=3.5) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. When I open the PDF in Preview, the “inspector” confirms the >>>>>>>> intended size. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. I embed the PDF into Word for Mac (the newest version). I >>>>>>>> accomplish this in one of several ways, all leading to the same >>>>>>>> outcome: >>>>>>>> a. I drag the icon into Word >>>>>>>> b. I copy the thumbnail and paste into Word >>>>>>>> c. I drag the thumbnail into Word >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. Previously, after the page was embedded, the size matched the >>>>>>>> specifications (5 x 3.5, in this instance). Now, the width is one-half >>>>>>>> of the intended size. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. Interestingly, when I drag the thumbnail into Word, the image >>>>>>>> appears twice >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suspect that the problem is in Word, rather than R, but I am curious >>>>>>>> as to whether anyone has encountered this and has a solution. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Dennis, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try it with the attached PDF, created with: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pdf("test.pdf", width = 5, height = 3.5) >>>>>>> plot(1:5) >>>>>>> dev.off() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using R 3.4.4 on macOS 10.13.3, with Word 2016. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I drag the pdf file from my desktop into Word, or the thumbnail >>>>>>> from Preview, the size of the embedded object is correct and I get the >>>>>>> correct preview image of the plot in Word. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I copy and paste the thumbnail into Word, it has the correct size, >>>>>>> the but preview image in Word appears to be bitmapped, instead of >>>>>>> vector, so the quality of the image in Word is not as good. Similar to >>>>>>> what one might see embedding an EPS file in Word. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, if I "Insert" object from the Word menu, and select the PDF file, >>>>>>> I get the correct size and the vector based image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marc Schwartz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <test.pdf> >>>>>> >>>>> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
