I don't want to relight the fire, but I was wondering about that statement from John C Frain: "If you use RStudio and do not install any of the RStudio packages".
I guess you mean that some packages are bundled with RStudio. I had never noticed any optional packages during the installation of RStudio... Is there a way to identify (and delete, if wished) these packages? Or have I misunderstood? Thank you! Ivan -- Dr. Ivan Calandra TraCEr, laboratory for Traceology and Controlled Experiments MONREPOS Archaeological Research Centre and Museum for Human Behavioural Evolution Schloss Monrepos 56567 Neuwied, Germany +49 (0) 2631 9772-243 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ivan_Calandra On 16/08/2020 20:20, John C Frain wrote: > On Sun 16 Aug 2020 at 06:32, Jeff Newmiller <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> > wrote: > >> a) Read about it yourself. It is a legal definition. >> >> b) Don't "correct" me with misinformation you are clearly inventing. >> RStudio the software does not "introduce people to a modified version of >> R." Each user has to opt in to that "modified" experience by explicitly >> installing each of the the many CRAN packages that various employees of >> RStudio have created and all of which can (to my knowledge) be used without >> installing the RStudio IDE at all. Yes, a bunch of them can be grabbed at >> once by installing the tidyverse package, but that is also a choice made by >> users and by instructors struggling to deal with students who have a hard >> time with Excel much less functional programming. But RStudio is an R IDE. >> >> There are a lot of packages sponsored by RStudio that I find redundant and >> slow, but portraying the RStudio company or the IDE as inherently "not R" >> just because newbies like the IDE and the packages they sponsor, and who >> end up confusing R with RStudio even though they have to install both, is >> small-minded and biased > > To clarify: If you use RStudio and do not install any of the RStudio > packages, R in RStudio is the same R as if you were running it from the > command line. I would think that many users find command completion, > access to help files, project management Etc. useful. Nobody is asking > anyone to install the RStudio packages. I do sometimes but not always and > have found them useful. Jeff is 100% correct. > > >> On August 15, 2020 9:10:34 PM PDT, Abby Spurdle <spurdl...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:11 PM Jeff Newmiller >>> <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >>>> It is a public benefit corporation >>> Seriously? >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:11 PM Jeff Newmiller >>> <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >>>> used to introduce people to R >>> Correction, it introduces people to a modified version of R. >> -- >> Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
