On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) <muenc...@utk.edu> wrote: > Interesting! I had no idea there were R-help lists in other languages. I > don't see it on http://www.r-project.org/mail.html, but then that's in > English! Is there a list of such sites?
It is listed here: https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo Kjetil > > Thanks, > Bob > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kjetil Halvorsen [mailto:kjetilbrinchmannhalvor...@gmail.com] >>Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:12 AM >>To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) >>Cc: ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk; r-help@r-project.org >>Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... >> >>One should also take into account the other R list. For example, as of >>today the number of subscribers to >>R-help-es (R-help for spanish speakers) is 290, increasing. >> >>Kjetil Halvorsen >> >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) >><muenc...@utk.edu> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org >>> [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] >>>>On Behalf Of Ted Harding >>>>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:42 PM >>>>To: r-help@r-project.org >>>>Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... >>>> >>>> >>>>I've given thought in the past to the question of estimating the R >>>>user base, and came to the conclusion that it is impossible to get >>>>an estimate of the number of users that one could trust (or even >>>>put anything like a margin of error to). >>>> >>>>I think one could get a number which represented a moderately >>>>informative lower bound -- just count the number of different email >>>>addresses that have ever posted to the R-help list. This will of >>>>course include people who post (or have posted) from more than one >>>>email address, and people who tried R for a while and then dropped >>>>it, but my feeling is that these are likely to be outweighed by the >>>>number of people who have used R but have never posted (for example >>>>students who are getting their R help from their instructors, people >>>>using R in a corporate context who are discouraged from posting to >>>>public lists, etc.). >>> >>> Ted, that's a very interesting suggestion. Do you know of a practical >>> way of getting that count? >>> >>>> >>>>The number of subscribers to R-help (currently about 10200) is >>>>a definite lower bound for the number of R users, but many users >>>>post to R-help without being subscribed. >>> >>> 10,200 is quite an amazing number! Here are the number of subscribers >>> to: >>> >>> SAS-L 3,251 >>> SPSSX-L 2,103 >>> Statlist 1,847 >>> S-PLUS - havn't figured out how to get this yet >>> >>> How did you get the R-help figure? >>> >>>> >>>>I would expect that the total number of different email addresses >>>>that have posted to R-help would be considerably larger than 10200. >>>> >>>>I don't think a "Mark-Recapture" approach is feasible. >>>> >>>>Further, I don't know how one might take account of the fact that >>>>some installations of R (e.g. on a corporate or institutional >>>>or departmental server) may each be used by several users. >>> >>> The server question in particular intrigues me. Research organizations >>> are stuffed with high performance clusters. The cost of all the >>> commercial packages is just incredible. Even at the heavily discounted >>> rate academia gets, they're still unaffordable. However, if queried >>we'd >>> find the commercial packages on them, but limited to 4 out of 2,500 >>> nodes! You might see the reverse in industry, with one mainframe copy >>of >>> SAS serving hundreds of users. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bob >>> >>>> >>>>Ted. >>>> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk> >>>>Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 >>>>Date: 20-Jun-10 Time: 20:41:43 >>>>------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ >>>> >>>>______________________________________________ >>>>R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>>PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- >>>>guide.html >>>>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- >>guide.html >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> > ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
