Interesting! I had no idea there were R-help lists in other languages. I don't see it on http://www.r-project.org/mail.html, but then that's in English! Is there a list of such sites?
Thanks, Bob >-----Original Message----- >From: Kjetil Halvorsen [mailto:kjetilbrinchmannhalvor...@gmail.com] >Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:12 AM >To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) >Cc: ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk; r-help@r-project.org >Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... > >One should also take into account the other R list. For example, as of >today the number of subscribers to >R-help-es (R-help for spanish speakers) is 290, increasing. > >Kjetil Halvorsen > >On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) ><muenc...@utk.edu> wrote: >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org >> [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] >>>On Behalf Of Ted Harding >>>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:42 PM >>>To: r-help@r-project.org >>>Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... >>> >>> >>>I've given thought in the past to the question of estimating the R >>>user base, and came to the conclusion that it is impossible to get >>>an estimate of the number of users that one could trust (or even >>>put anything like a margin of error to). >>> >>>I think one could get a number which represented a moderately >>>informative lower bound -- just count the number of different email >>>addresses that have ever posted to the R-help list. This will of >>>course include people who post (or have posted) from more than one >>>email address, and people who tried R for a while and then dropped >>>it, but my feeling is that these are likely to be outweighed by the >>>number of people who have used R but have never posted (for example >>>students who are getting their R help from their instructors, people >>>using R in a corporate context who are discouraged from posting to >>>public lists, etc.). >> >> Ted, that's a very interesting suggestion. Do you know of a practical >> way of getting that count? >> >>> >>>The number of subscribers to R-help (currently about 10200) is >>>a definite lower bound for the number of R users, but many users >>>post to R-help without being subscribed. >> >> 10,200 is quite an amazing number! Here are the number of subscribers >> to: >> >> SAS-L 3,251 >> SPSSX-L 2,103 >> Statlist 1,847 >> S-PLUS - havn't figured out how to get this yet >> >> How did you get the R-help figure? >> >>> >>>I would expect that the total number of different email addresses >>>that have posted to R-help would be considerably larger than 10200. >>> >>>I don't think a "Mark-Recapture" approach is feasible. >>> >>>Further, I don't know how one might take account of the fact that >>>some installations of R (e.g. on a corporate or institutional >>>or departmental server) may each be used by several users. >> >> The server question in particular intrigues me. Research organizations >> are stuffed with high performance clusters. The cost of all the >> commercial packages is just incredible. Even at the heavily discounted >> rate academia gets, they're still unaffordable. However, if queried >we'd >> find the commercial packages on them, but limited to 4 out of 2,500 >> nodes! You might see the reverse in industry, with one mainframe copy >of >> SAS serving hundreds of users. >> >> Cheers, >> Bob >> >>> >>>Ted. >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.hard...@manchester.ac.uk> >>>Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 >>>Date: 20-Jun-10 Time: 20:41:43 >>>------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ >>> >>>______________________________________________ >>>R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- >>>guide.html >>>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- >guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
