On Sun March 14 2004 06:31 pm, Cody Baker wrote:
forgot to finish. qmail-scanner is used to process each message that comes 
through the gateway with csav and spamassassin.

surgemail does additional spam tests using their smitecrc spam detection 
system before delivering to the local mailboxes.

> Chuck,
>     In what fashion are you using qmail-scanner/Qmail with surgemail?  I
> really don't know how to comment otherwise.
>
> ~Cody
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]DSPAM Support?
>
> > On Sun March 14 2004 01:33 pm, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> > ugh.. ok well how about this scenario... we use surgemail as our pop3
>
> server.
>
> > it has a place to shell out to spamassassin and then come back for
>
> delivery.
>
> > would that work? i do not want anything delivering to our users mailboxes
> > except surgemail, otherwise too many user features will break.  however,
> > since the spam quarantine area can be defined separately and used via
>
> spamd's
>
> > web facility, can it work in that fashion?
> >
> > > Chuck wrote:
> > > > On Sun March 14 2004 12:29 pm, Cody Baker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > from all the reading i have done so far, it looks like it can be
>
> called
>
> > > > like sa or your a/v program. if it finds spam it will quarantine it
>
> and
>
> > > > if it is clean then it returns and the qmail system carries on to
>
> deliver
>
> > > > the mail. I hope I am right.. if so it will be almost a plugin
>
> changeover
>
> > > > (not including database/user-quarantine area/web interface)..
> > > >
> > > > my only concern in using it in this fashion is if it creates user
>
> areas
>
> > > > for each held message, then it will make a LOT of user areas that
> > > > will never get used since we use qmail only as an smtp gateway, and
> > > > many domains use it just for its capabilities and we forward mail on
> > > > to
>
> their
>
> > > > private pop3 servers. i suppose we can offer the user admin spam area
>
> as
>
> > > > a perk:)
> > >
> > > Whoa, whoa whoa... time for me to pipe in here.
> > >
> > > I've been on the dspam list for some time now. I've even looked at the
> > > header files for the library to get a better idea of what it does and
>
> how.
>
> > > 1. This discussion is a dead end -- dspam assumes a monolithic MTA and
> > > that it will act as an intermediary to the local delivery agent. If it
> > > is to be used before messages are queued (as qmail-scanner is with
> > > qmail) it will have to be rewritten. Some people have already started
> > > discussing this -- you'd use the libdspam library to accomplish this
>
> task.
>
> > > 2. Using qmail-scanner with dspam totally defeats the design philosophy
> > > of dspam, which is to ensure fast execution times and allow its use on
> > > high volume servers. qmail-scanner is written in perl and is simply too
> > > slow for that.
> > >
> > > 3. User dictionaries complicate things. If dspam can be made to include
> > > user information in the global dictionary, it may not matter, but this
> > > is an outstanding question.
> > >
> > > If you guys are serious about a pre-queue spam filter and if you have
> > > any programming skills, I would suggest you join the dspam-dev list and
> > > take up this discussion there -- there's going to be a lot of work
> > > needed to get where you want to go from here.
> > >
> > > -Stephen-
> > >
> > >
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> > Chuck
> >
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Chuck

"...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger,
and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath
or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose 
for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. "
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