On Sun March 14 2004 12:29 pm, Cody Baker wrote: from all the reading i have done so far, it looks like it can be called like sa or your a/v program. if it finds spam it will quarantine it and if it is clean then it returns and the qmail system carries on to deliver the mail. I hope I am right.. if so it will be almost a plugin changeover (not including database/user-quarantine area/web interface)..
my only concern in using it in this fashion is if it creates user areas for each held message, then it will make a LOT of user areas that will never get used since we use qmail only as an smtp gateway, and many domains use it just for its capabilities and we forward mail on to their private pop3 servers. i suppose we can offer the user admin spam area as a perk:) > It's funny this just came up because I just discovered D-Spam last evening. > It looks cool, but I really have my doubts that it could be incorperated at > the qmail-scanner level. It's designed to fit in between qmail-send and > qmail-local. I went to the #dspam channel on irc.freenode.net and asked a > few questions. Here's the results. > this conversation tends to support my theories. i have covered my bases though and sent a message to jonathan the author. Once i get his reply we should know exactly what it can and cannot do because i asked qmail-scanner-specific questions. > * Now talking in #dspam > * Topic is 'The Hunka-Chunka of Spam Filters || Stable version: 2.10.0' > * Set by [dmp] on Sat Mar 13 13:48:03 > <Cody> Heya, i had a few questions about incorperating dspam in with qmail > and vpopmail. The first being, can it be done at all? > <[dmp]> Cody: yes, there is a few guides on how to do it > <Cody> From what i gathered from the FAQ, dspam works essentially as a > replacement for qmail-local, is this correct? > <[dmp]> > http://www.ghidinelli.com/blog/permalink/?id=87AFE01B-DA5D-075C-81A29251351 >18DEC <[dmp]> qmail-local is the lda ? > <Cody> yeah > <Cody> Does spam support maildir or is only Mailbox? > <[dmp]> it isnt a replacement. > <[dmp]> Your maildaemon calls dspam, which do the work it needs to do, and > then call the real lda > <Cody> ok, so it runs in line with it then > <Cody> ok, that's how our current solution works > <[dmp]> you're already using dspam? > <Cody> no > <[dmp]> ok > <Cody> we're using spamassassin with some custom scripting at the momment > <[dmp]> when you configure / compile dspam .. you can tell it which command > and parameters it should use, when it needs to deliver a ham-mail and a > spam-mail. > <Cody> one of the things i really liked about spamassassin was that it ran > in a deamonized form. Spamd the server part of spamassassin, could be run > in an array of boxes, and the primary mail server could just call spamc, > pass the message to the spamd servers. Is there a similar proceedure to > this? > <[dmp]> Not currently. you can code a daemon with the libdspam library, but > if you just install it, you only have the dspam executable. (no daemon) > <Cody> so it must run on the same machine as the lda > <[dmp]> SA got, iirc, alot of regexs and stuff, so it make more sense to > cache this. dspam dont have this overhead - so i dont think you will gain > alot by daemonizing it. > <[dmp]> Yep. > <Cody> The documentation mentioned that execution times are fairly low. > Would it be possible for a single machine to handle a million or so plus > messages a day, in addition to it's serving of pop3/imap > <[dmp]> I dont know. I use dspam in small scale enviroment. > <[dmp]> But try the mailinglist - i know ther eis a few guys with larger > setup - dont know how large, tho > <Cody> that brings up my next question, very small environments, We colo > some customers with less than 20 mailboxes, is this type of filtering > effective for this kind of senario > <[dmp]> Yes. I got a enviroment like that, dspam works nicely. I got better > filtering than SA did for me. As long someone teaches dspam what is spam, > and what is not spam. > <Cody> So dspam doesn't do anything until someone teaches it? > <[dmp]> If you just install it, you need to teach it what spam is. There is > more options on how to do this. But a clean installation dosnt give you > anything than a software that can learn. > <Cody> ok > <[dmp]> Thats how most(all?) bayesian networks works. > <[dmp]> If you got a collection of spams (and hams) you can feed it into > dspam to get a quicker start. > <Cody> so essentially we could feed high and low spam assassin messages to > this to get a start > <[dmp]> Yeah. You just have to be fairly sure that the spams really are > spams and hams likewise. > <Cody> sounds good > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]DSPAM Support? > > > Yes I am very interested in this too. What is the official word on > > support > > for > > > this? > > > > I am looking very hard at this program trying to figure out the best > > place > > to > > > put it (our smtp server or our pop3 server). I would like to replace > > spamassassin in our smtp gateway with this. > > > > On Tue February 24 2004 01:38 pm, Rajkumar S wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Any one working on adding DSPAM support to Qmail-Scanner? They are > > > claiming near 100% accuracy in stopping spam. > > > > > > http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/ > > > > > > raj > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. > > > Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with > > > a free DVD software kit from IBM. 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