Chuck,
In what fashion are you using qmail-scanner/Qmail with surgemail? I
really don't know how to comment otherwise.
~Cody
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Qmail-scanner-general]DSPAM Support?
> On Sun March 14 2004 01:33 pm, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> ugh.. ok well how about this scenario... we use surgemail as our pop3
server.
> it has a place to shell out to spamassassin and then come back for
delivery.
> would that work? i do not want anything delivering to our users mailboxes
> except surgemail, otherwise too many user features will break. however,
> since the spam quarantine area can be defined separately and used via
spamd's
> web facility, can it work in that fashion?
>
> > Chuck wrote:
> > > On Sun March 14 2004 12:29 pm, Cody Baker wrote:
> > >
> > > from all the reading i have done so far, it looks like it can be
called
> > > like sa or your a/v program. if it finds spam it will quarantine it
and
> > > if it is clean then it returns and the qmail system carries on to
deliver
> > > the mail. I hope I am right.. if so it will be almost a plugin
changeover
> > > (not including database/user-quarantine area/web interface)..
> > >
> > > my only concern in using it in this fashion is if it creates user
areas
> > > for each held message, then it will make a LOT of user areas that will
> > > never get used since we use qmail only as an smtp gateway, and many
> > > domains use it just for its capabilities and we forward mail on to
their
> > > private pop3 servers. i suppose we can offer the user admin spam area
as
> > > a perk:)
> >
> > Whoa, whoa whoa... time for me to pipe in here.
> >
> > I've been on the dspam list for some time now. I've even looked at the
> > header files for the library to get a better idea of what it does and
how.
> >
> > 1. This discussion is a dead end -- dspam assumes a monolithic MTA and
> > that it will act as an intermediary to the local delivery agent. If it
> > is to be used before messages are queued (as qmail-scanner is with
> > qmail) it will have to be rewritten. Some people have already started
> > discussing this -- you'd use the libdspam library to accomplish this
task.
> >
> > 2. Using qmail-scanner with dspam totally defeats the design philosophy
> > of dspam, which is to ensure fast execution times and allow its use on
> > high volume servers. qmail-scanner is written in perl and is simply too
> > slow for that.
> >
> > 3. User dictionaries complicate things. If dspam can be made to include
> > user information in the global dictionary, it may not matter, but this
> > is an outstanding question.
> >
> > If you guys are serious about a pre-queue spam filter and if you have
> > any programming skills, I would suggest you join the dspam-dev list and
> > take up this discussion there -- there's going to be a lot of work
> > needed to get where you want to go from here.
> >
> > -Stephen-
> >
> >
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