Yes, this is not the time for business as usual. Not knowing what to do from far away in Japan, but thinking of you all since yesterday all day long, Maria -- sure, I am not the only one who feels like that!
> Am 25.02.2022 um 13:55 schrieb Alexander Bruy <[email protected]>: > > Thanks Markus and all those who support us and have bravery to name > things with their real names. > > For those who want to make business as usual even during the hot phase > of war I wish you will never > experience their friendship, welcomeness and cooperation. > > Greetings from burning Ukraine, which is already "a better, more free place". > > пт, 25 лют. 2022 р. о 01:27 Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria > <[email protected]> пише: >> >> Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list, >> >> yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this >> morning because it was worth a second thought. >> >> I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on >> Andreas' side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring >> this topic to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your >> posts very much. >> >> Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that. >> >> Greetings from Japan, >> Maria >> >> >>> Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Dear Markus, >>> >>> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that >>> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against >>> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start >>> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we >>> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has >>> to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and >>> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of >>> QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as >>> an example? >>> >>> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member >>> from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is >>> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard >>> to judge - of course - for outsiders. >>> >>> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from >>> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population >>> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war >>> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it >>> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and >>> contributors based on these events. >>> >>> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this >>> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in >>> the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be >>> deescalated. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Andreas >>> >>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dear List, >>> >>> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in >>> Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on >>> Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, >>> peaceful open source community. >>> >>> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom? >>> - What can the QGIS community do? >>> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for >>> Russian military purposes against the Ukraine? >>> >>> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the >>> representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian >>> population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them >>> know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic >>> European country goes against all the values we stand for in the open >>> source community. >>> >>> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian >>> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian >>> companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man >>> to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to >>> free Europe. >>> >>> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about >>> excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as >>> Russian troops are in the Ukraine. >>> >>> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must >>> defend! >>> >>> How do you think about it? >>> >>> Very concerned greeting. >>> >>> Markus Weidenbach >>> landConsult.de >>> Bühl/Germany >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> Andreas Neumann >>> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > -- > Alexander Bruy > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > [email protected] > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user _______________________________________________ Qgis-user mailing list [email protected] List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
