Anton Vredegoor wrote:
> With the inclusion of ElementTree (an XML-parser) in Python25 and recent
> developments concerning JSON (a very Pythonesque but somewhat limited
> XML notation scheme, let's call it statically typed XML)
JSON stands for JavaScript Object Notation, and has *nothing* to do with
XML - except for the fact that it's more and more used instead of XML
for AJAX stuff.
> Python seems to
> have reached a stage where it now seems to be possible to completely
> swallow lesser languages code, modify it, and spit out new source code
> targeting the original language the code was written in, or even make a
> translation to other languages.
If you mean "parsing source in a given format and outputting another -
modified or not - representation, in the same or another format", Python
as always been able to do so.
> The idea is that we now have a fast parser (ElementTree) with a
> reasonable 'API' and a data type (XML or JSON) that can be used as an
> intermediate form to store parsing trees. Especially statically typed
> little languages seem to be very swallow-able. Maybe I will be able to
> reimplement GFABasic (my first love computer language, although not my
> first relationship) someday, just for fun.
>
> Then there are things like cTypes (calling functions from native DLL's)
> and PyPy (implementing Python in Python).
>
> All this taken together, to me it starts looking like we're now entering
> a territory that traditionally was exclusively in the Lisp domain.
Sorry, but I just don't get the point. Parsing, working with trees and
calling native code are in no way "exclusively in the Lisp domain".
> Yes, Python had eval and exec for a long time already, and metatypes and
> generators are having some strange unexplored possibilities too, but the
> day will come soon (and at last when PyPy is reaching execution speeds
> close to cPython) where Python will be able to swallow smaller
> languages, and finally it will be able to swallow its own tail, like
> Lisp but then more powerful
I'm afraid Python is still very far from Lisp - and will never get there
(FWIW, this seems not to be the goal anyway).
> (because of the widely used standard data
> types and the code exchange between languages that that makes possible).
I still don't get the point.
> Your thoughts please.
>
> Anton
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