Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:

>> And I think the discussion that followed proved your point perfectly
>> Fredrik. Big discussion over fairly minor things, but no "big picture".
>>  Where are the initiatives on the "big stuff" (common documentation
>> format, improved build system, improved web modules, reworking the
>> standard library to mention a few)  Hey, even Ruby is passing us here.
>
> This is Open Source. If you want an initiative, start one.

you know, this "you have opinions? fuck off!" attitude isn't really helping.

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